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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks, Kees. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Interesting that rachitis (rickets) is "the English
disease" in Dutch. No doubt the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>disease was common in the 17th century, when the
Dutch sailed up the Medway, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to the consternation of my ancestors. Although
rickets was virtually eliminated </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>England (following the discovery that it is a
result of Vitamin D deficiency), </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the derivative adjective _rickety_ is still quite
common --- but now it's normally </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>applied to </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><U>built
artefacts</U>, rather than people. The most significant
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>collocations </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>in </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>BNC (with
frequency and MI score) are:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>rickety ...</FONT></DIV>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>stair(s) </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_stair.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>12</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>18.3 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>table </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_table.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>16</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>14.9 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>staircase </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_staircase.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>7</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>12.8 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>bridge </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_bridge.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>7</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>11.7 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>ladder </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_ladder.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>5</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>11.5 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>chair </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_chair.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>6</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>8.2 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>shed </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_shed.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>3</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>7.3 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>hut </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_hut.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>3</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>7.1 </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></TD></TR>
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<TD><FONT face=Arial size=2>step(s) </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><A
href="http://wasps.itri.bton.ac.uk/CONCORDANCES/rickety_a::modifies_-_step.html"
target=concordancer><FONT face=Arial size=2>5</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2> </FONT></TD>
<TD align=right><FONT face=Arial size=2>7.0
</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Another example of the persistence of folk culture
and the arbitrariness</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>of linguistic convention. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Patrick </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Kees van Kolmeschate" <</FONT><A
href="mailto:keesvkolmeschate@hetnet.nl"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>keesvkolmeschate@hetnet.nl</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: <</FONT><A
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:09
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: [Lexicog] stereotypical beliefs and
lexicography</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> <BR>> <BR>> --- In </FONT><A
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>,
"Patrick Hanks" <</FONT><A href="mailto:hanks@b"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>hanks@b</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>...> <BR>> wrote:<BR>>
> ... Does Dutch have derogatory expressions involving "English"? Or
<BR>> is Dutch stereotypically more polite -- or more parochial -- than
<BR>> English? <BR>> <BR>> The only expression with "English" in Dutch,
apart form a few really <BR>> harmless technical terms, that comes to my mind
is "Engelse ziekte" <BR>> (English disease) = "rachitis".<BR>> Probably
the influence of England on Holland was less than the one <BR>> vice <BR>>
versa; due to England's insular (insulating?) position? England seems <BR>>
to have had less direct impact on us than e.g. France, and German <BR>>
Bishops.<BR>> At any rate I hardly recall from my History lessons in primary
school <BR>> much more about England than the "English wars # 1 .. 4" and
Michiel <BR>> Adriaanszn De Ruiter sailing up the Medway and breaking the
<BR>> protective chain over the river. <BR>> <BR>> hartelijke groeten,
<BR>> <BR>> Kees. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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