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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for explaining the background of this.
Yes, you're right - if somebody were to tell me that I understand women, I guess
I'd actually have to be rather gullible to take it as a serious
compliment : )</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Allan</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 27, 2005 10:41
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Origin and
synonyms of "wimp"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=109021002-27062005></SPAN>A<SPAN
class=109021002-27062005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3>llan, </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=109021002-27062005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=109021002-27062005></SPAN>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=109021002-27062005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>When using this term in </SPAN><SPAN
class=109021002-27062005>this "game", the assumption is that
men and women have different communication
styles</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=+0><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=109021002-27062005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN
class=109021002-27062005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>(<SPAN class=109021002-27062005> that is why so many books are
written about this fact nowadays) and as a result have
communication</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>problems. So if a
man TEASES another man (I wrote "insult" in quotation marks), it is a
mock insult.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>The other man,
usually a friend, being fully aware that the perfect man does not exist who
understands</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>women, will
probably laugh. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>That is the spirit
of the game: good-natured bantering. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>What you say about
trying to understand women is, of course, a worthy goal (and vice versa) but
that is not</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>the point of the
game. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=109021002-27062005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109021002-27062005>Nobody is perfect,
I am nobody,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=109021002-27062005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=109021002-27062005>Fritz</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Fritz,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't see a way to translate it as a
derogatory term. If I were to be accused of "understanding women", it
would come across to me as a compliment. I think that to seek such
understanding is a worthy goal for a man - particularly if he's married
: ) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Allan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 27, 2005 5:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Origin and
synonyms of "wimp"</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>
<DIV class=def><SPAN class=875251821-26062005>A man with
</SPAN>effeminate, unmanly characteristics that are opposed to the usual
stereotypical macho male behaviour </DIV>
<DIV class=def><SPAN class=875251821-26062005>would be a "Tunte" in
German. That term is very derogatory. There is a social game among men in
Germany</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=def><SPAN class=875251821-26062005>nowadays, where men
"insult"/tease one another as "wimps" by all kinds of terms (over
2000 already and new ones are</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=def><SPAN class=875251821-26062005>coined every day). Among the
top ones is "Frauenversteher" = a man who understands women. Is there a
good</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=def><SPAN class=875251821-26062005>translation of that one into
English?</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=def><SPAN class=875251821-26062005></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=def><SPAN class=875251821-26062005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3>Fritz Goerling</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=def><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3></FONT> </DIV></FONT><TT>Don't know about the etymology of
wimp, but an American English synonym is <BR>' wuss.' That one's origins
seem clear: 'pussy' (derogatory, feminine <BR>acting male) => puss
=> wuss. Some would say that using the word 'wuss' <BR>marks one
as a 'wuss,' reluctant to use the less PC original term.<BR><BR>Jim
Long<BR><BR>At 12:18 AM 6/25/2005 +0200, you wrote:<BR>>Where does
"wimp" come from?<BR>>What are some of its "synonyms" in English
(American, British, or other <BR>>variants of
English)?<BR>><BR>>Fritz Goerling<BR></TT></DIV><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --><?---- LSpots keywords ?><?---- HM ADS ?><?---- LSpots keywords ?><?---- HM ADS ?></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><?---- LSpots keywords ?><?---- HM ADS ?>
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