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size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005></SPAN>D<SPAN
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size=3>"Man" in the saying "Man isst was man isst" is only written in
capitals because it</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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size=3>b<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>egins the sentence. Otherwise all
nouns are capitalized in German. However, the
"Man"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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size=3>i<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>n the saying "Man isst was man
isst" has nothing to do with "Mann" (= man; the
male)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=406204118-23082005>It corresponds to the impersonal "on" in French
and </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005>"one" in English. So the translation
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class=406204118-23082005>of the German saying into English is "One eats what
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>o<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>ne
eats" or in gender-noninclusive
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class=406204118-23082005>language "Man eats what he
eats."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
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class=406204118-23082005>ritz </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><SPAN
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class=406204118-23082005> </SPAN><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT><TT>Fritz
--<BR><BR>I don't know German, but I remember a German saying, something like
"Man ist <BR>was man isst." (Please forgive and correct spelling mistakes.) Is
this "man" <BR>unrelated to what you were talking about?<BR><BR>-- David
Frank<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From:
<billposer@alum.mit.edu><BR>To:
<lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com><BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005
10:29 AM<BR>Subject: RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical entries as singulars or
plurals<BR><BR><BR>Granting the availability of mensch as a gender-neutral
term,<BR>am I wrong in thinking that, in the indefinite usage, mann
and<BR>leute are a singular/plural pair? I'm thing of usages like:<BR><BR>Was
mann sagt ... "What a person/one says..."<BR>Was leute sagen .. "What
people say..." <BR><BR></TT>
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