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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>H<SPAN 
class=703335118-23082005>i Bill,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=703335118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005>"man" 
(written lower case in German) is, in fact, the indefinite usage, comparable to 
"one/person"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005>in English. 
"Mann", written with a capital letter, like any other German noun, means "man" 
(male).</SPAN><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=3> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2>German 
indefinite "man"</FONT> <FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2>could be 
replaced by plural "Leute" in certain contexts. It is often 
used</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT 
size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>i<SPAN class=703335118-23082005>n a 
moralizing context "man tut das nicht ..."</SPAN><SPAN 
class=703335118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3> <FONT 
face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2> (one does not do that ...). Feminists have 
tried</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN><FONT 
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>t<SPAN 
class=703335118-23082005>o replace this indefinite "man" (which sounds like 
"Mann") </SPAN><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=3> <FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2>by "frau" (woman). Just 
doesn't</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN><FONT 
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>w<SPAN 
class=703335118-23082005>ork in German. It only makes one/people 
laugh. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=703335118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN 
class=703335118-23082005>Fritz</SPAN><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT 
face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=3> </FONT></SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><TT><BR>Granting the availability of mensch as a gender-neutral 
  term,<BR>am I wrong in thinking that, in the indefinite usage, mann 
  and<BR>leute are a singular/plural pair? I'm thing of usages 
  like:<BR><BR>      Was mann sagt ...  "What a 
  person/one says..."<BR>      Was leute sagen .. "What 
  people say..."<BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Bill Poser, Linguistics, University of 
  Pennsylvania<BR><A 
  href="http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~wjposer/">http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~wjposer/</A> 
  billposer@alum.mit.edu<BR></TT>

    
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