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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>H<SPAN
class=703335118-23082005>i Bill,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=703335118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005>"man"
(written lower case in German) is, in fact, the indefinite usage, comparable to
"one/person"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005>in English.
"Mann", written with a capital letter, like any other German noun, means "man"
(male).</SPAN><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3><FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2>German
indefinite "man"</FONT> <FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2>could be
replaced by plural "Leute" in certain contexts. It is often
used</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>i<SPAN class=703335118-23082005>n a
moralizing context "man tut das nicht ..."</SPAN><SPAN
class=703335118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3> <FONT
face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2> (one does not do that ...). Feminists have
tried</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>t<SPAN
class=703335118-23082005>o replace this indefinite "man" (which sounds like
"Mann") </SPAN><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3> <FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000 size=2>by "frau" (woman). Just
doesn't</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=703335118-23082005></SPAN>w<SPAN
class=703335118-23082005>ork in German. It only makes one/people
laugh. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=703335118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=703335118-23082005>Fritz</SPAN><SPAN class=703335118-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3> </FONT></SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><TT><BR>Granting the availability of mensch as a gender-neutral
term,<BR>am I wrong in thinking that, in the indefinite usage, mann
and<BR>leute are a singular/plural pair? I'm thing of usages
like:<BR><BR> Was mann sagt ... "What a
person/one says..."<BR> Was leute sagen .. "What
people say..."<BR><BR><BR>--<BR>Bill Poser, Linguistics, University of
Pennsylvania<BR><A
href="http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~wjposer/">http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~wjposer/</A>
billposer@alum.mit.edu<BR></TT>
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