<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2180" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So the German should be "Man ist was man isst."
(note the different verbs)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Robert</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=fritz_goerling@sil.org
href="mailto:fritz_goerling@sil.org">'Fritz Goerling'</A> ; <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:17
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical
entries as singulars or plurals</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=750521620-23082005></SPAN>S<SPAN class=750521620-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>orry, I meant "One is what one eats"and
"Man is what he eats."</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=750521620-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=750521620-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>FG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005></SPAN>D<SPAN
class=406204118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3>avid,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3>"Man" in the saying "Man isst was man isst" is only written in
capitals because it</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>b<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>egins the sentence. Otherwise
all nouns are capitalized in German. However, the
"Man"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>i<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>n the saying "Man isst was man
isst" has nothing to do with "Mann" (= man; the
male)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005>It corresponds to the impersonal "on" in
French and </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=406204118-23082005>"one" in English. So the translation
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005>of the German saying into English is "One eats
what </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>o<SPAN
class=406204118-23082005>ne eats" or in gender-noninclusive
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005>language "Man eats what he
eats."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>F<SPAN
class=406204118-23082005>ritz </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><BR> </DIV></FONT></FONT><TT>Fritz
--<BR><BR>I don't know German, but I remember a German saying, something
like "Man ist <BR>was man isst." (Please forgive and correct spelling
mistakes.) Is this "man" <BR>unrelated to what you were talking
about?<BR><BR>-- David Frank<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----
<BR>From: <billposer@alum.mit.edu><BR>To:
<lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com><BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005
10:29 AM<BR>Subject: RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical entries as singulars or
plurals<BR><BR><BR>Granting the availability of mensch as a gender-neutral
term,<BR>am I wrong in thinking that, in the indefinite usage, mann
and<BR>leute are a singular/plural pair? I'm thing of usages
like:<BR><BR>Was mann sagt ... "What a person/one says..."<BR>Was
leute sagen .. "What people say..." <BR><BR></TT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<br><br>
<div style="width:500px; text-align:right; margin-bottom:1px; color:#909090;">
<tt>SPONSORED LINKS</tt>
</div>
<table bgcolor=#e0ecee cellspacing="13" cellpadding="0" width=500px>
<tr valign=top>
<td style="width:25%;">
<tt><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Lexicography&w1=Lexicography&w2=Science&w3=Cognitive&w4=Profile&w5=Intellectual+property+rights&c=5&s=93&.sig=pNGYhmp8tlrrdfCXjUs0dA">Lexicography</a></tt>
</td>
<td style="width:25%;">
<tt><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Science&w1=Lexicography&w2=Science&w3=Cognitive&w4=Profile&w5=Intellectual+property+rights&c=5&s=93&.sig=DviHege6MrL_LfaedTQN_Q">Science</a></tt>
</td>
<td style="width:25%;">
<tt><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Cognitive&w1=Lexicography&w2=Science&w3=Cognitive&w4=Profile&w5=Intellectual+property+rights&c=5&s=93&.sig=bF5aP39k3rA9o2lq4pDBcQ">Cognitive</a></tt>
</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=top>
<td style="width:25%;">
<tt><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Profile&w1=Lexicography&w2=Science&w3=Cognitive&w4=Profile&w5=Intellectual+property+rights&c=5&s=93&.sig=y2Ly4cWhRi0VgNeglkjz-g">Profile</a></tt>
</td>
<td style="width:25%;">
<tt><a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Intellectual+property+rights&w1=Lexicography&w2=Science&w3=Cognitive&w4=Profile&w5=Intellectual+property+rights&c=5&s=93&.sig=mM9sWCAQzXiWga7l36Rcsw">Intellectual property rights</a></tt>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
<!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| -->
<br>
<div style="text-align:center; color:#909090; width:500px;">
<hr style="border-bottom:1px; width:500px; text-align:left;">
<tt>YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS</tt>
</div>
<br>
<ul>
<tt><li type=square> Visit your group "<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lexicographylist">lexicographylist</a>" on the web.<br> </tt>
<tt><li type=square> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<br> <a href="mailto:lexicographylist-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe">lexicographylist-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com</a><br> </tt>
<tt><li type=square> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">Yahoo! Terms of Service</a>.</tt>
</ul>
<br>
<div style="text-align:center; color:#909090; width:500px;">
<hr style="border-bottom:1px; width:500px; text-align:left;">
</div>
</br>
<!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| -->
</BODY></HTML>