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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500042423-23082005></SPAN>M<SPAN
class=500042423-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>erci vielmals,
Robert, for pointing out my typos,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=500042423-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=500042423-23082005></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>D<SPAN
class=500042423-23082005>avid, the American got it right (No spelling
mistake, David!)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=500042423-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN
class=500042423-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>I<SPAN class=500042423-23082005> , the German, spelt my own language
wrong. Of course,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=500042423-23082005>the point of the little world-play is in
the similar-sounding</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=500042423-23082005>"ist" (= is) and "isst" (=
eats).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN
class=500042423-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN
class=500042423-23082005>Fritz </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So the German should be "Man ist was man isst."
(note the different verbs)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Robert</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=fritz_goerling@sil.org
href="mailto:fritz_goerling@sil.org">'Fritz Goerling'</A> ; <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:17
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical
entries as singulars or plurals</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=750521620-23082005></SPAN>S<SPAN class=750521620-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>orry, I meant "One is what one eats"and
"Man is what he eats."</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=750521620-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=750521620-23082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>FG</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005></SPAN>D<SPAN
class=406204118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3>avid,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=3>"Man" in the saying "Man isst was man isst" is
only written in capitals because it</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>b<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>egins
the sentence. Otherwise all nouns are capitalized in German.
However, the "Man"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=406204118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>i<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>n the
saying "Man isst was man isst" has nothing to do with "Mann" (=
man; the male)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=406204118-23082005>It corresponds to the impersonal
"on" in French and </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=406204118-23082005>"one" in English. So the
translation </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=406204118-23082005>of the German saying into English
is "One eats what </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>o<SPAN class=406204118-23082005>ne eats" or in
gender-noninclusive </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=406204118-23082005>language "Man eats what he
eats."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>F<SPAN
class=406204118-23082005>ritz </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3> </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=406204118-23082005></SPAN><BR> </DIV></FONT></FONT><TT>Fritz
--<BR><BR>I don't know German, but I remember a German saying, something
like "Man ist <BR>was man isst." (Please forgive and correct spelling
mistakes.) Is this "man" <BR>unrelated to what you were talking
about?<BR><BR>-- David Frank<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----
<BR>From: <billposer@alum.mit.edu><BR>To:
<lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com><BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 23,
2005 10:29 AM<BR>Subject: RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical entries as singulars
or plurals<BR><BR><BR>Granting the availability of mensch as a
gender-neutral term,<BR>am I wrong in thinking that, in the indefinite
usage, mann and<BR>leute are a singular/plural pair? I'm thing of usages
like:<BR><BR>Was mann sagt ... "What a person/one says..."<BR>Was
leute sagen .. "What people say..."
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