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<DIV><BR><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=515574318-24082005></SPAN>P<SPAN
class=515574318-24082005><FONT face=Arial>atrick,</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=515574318-24082005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=515574318-24082005><FONT face=Arial>When one
goes to the Englischer Garten</FONT> in Munich, any sterotype one might
have </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><SPAN class=515574318-24082005></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005></SPAN><SPAN class=515574318-24082005><FONT
face=Arial> about </FONT></SPAN>E<SPAN class=515574318-24082005><FONT
face=Arial>nglish gardens and German behavior might be destroyed. Come
to</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=515574318-24082005></SPAN><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial>M<SPAN
class=515574318-24082005>unich some day, I'll show you
around.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=515574318-24082005>I
wonder how different cultures or subcultures define what is allowed or
forbidden.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005>Someone might say "Allowed" is "what is not forbidden."
Others have a more sensitive</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005>conscience. In religion and law fine distinctions can
be made, like in Islam where</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005>actions are classified on a cline from strongly
forbidden (an abomination), forbidden,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=515574318-24082005>not
recommended, recommended, allowed, neutral. The apostle Paul said
"Everything</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=515574318-24082005>is
allowed, but not everything is useful."</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=515574318-24082005>Am
I right I seeing a change in Western countries (like Holland, Germany, France,
the US)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005>from conservative and religious values to a "new
tolerance" which is reflected in the</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005>language? What once was banned<FONT size=3>,
</FONT>verboten, prohibited now becomes
acceptable.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
class=515574318-24082005>Fritz </SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV>'Niet op het gras lopen' sounds more friendly, don't you think? </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>In Germany, there are notices in parks which appear
to _give permission_ </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>for </FONT><FONT face=Arial>lying on </FONT><FONT
face=Arial>the </FONT><FONT face=Arial>grass -- </FONT><FONT
face=Arial>"Liegewiese", literally something like "lying-on meadow".
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>This, too, strikes </FONT><FONT face=Arial>a Brit.
as odd, but maybe there is a pragmatic implication that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>dogs </FONT><FONT face=Arial>should not
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>be </FONT><FONT face=Arial>allowed to foul it, nor
bicycles ridden over the recumbent </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>persons </FONT><FONT face=Arial>stretched out there
in the sunshine</FONT><FONT face=Arial>. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>One can also find grassy </FONT><FONT face=Arial>areas
specifically allocated to dogs -- </FONT><FONT
face=Arial>"Hundewiese". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I suppose no sane person would want
</FONT><FONT face=Arial>to lie on a Hundewiese. </FONT><FONT
face=Arial>It's all very </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>orderly and organized. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Patrick </FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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