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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=281403212-24082005></SPAN>T<SPAN
class=281403212-24082005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>here
are linguistic rules and there are exceptions to them. In dynamic
speech</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=281403212-24082005></SPAN><SPAN
class=281403212-24082005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>o<SPAN class=281403212-24082005>ne can choose to create all kinds of
effects by deliberately
ignoring</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=281403212-24082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN
class=281403212-24082005></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><SPAN class=281403212-24082005>or violating </SPAN>a<SPAN
class=281403212-24082005>ll kinds of
rules.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN
class=281403212-24082005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN
class=281403212-24082005>Fritz </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't think before stops you can have a
long/short or fortis/lenis contrast. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Robert</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:27
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical
entries as singulars or plurals</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=109050200-24082005></SPAN>F<SPAN class=109050200-24082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>or me they are identical in pronunciation in
normal speech. Maybe an actor or someone </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=109050200-24082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>who recites poetry
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>m<SPAN
class=109050200-24082005>ight exaggerate and make the difference by
hissing the double "s".</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>Or someone who
wants </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=109050200-24082005>to emphasize the
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>d<SPAN
class=109050200-24082005>ifference in this little saying might just put
more </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>stress on the
"isst." Or there is a discussion where
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>s<SPAN
class=109050200-24082005>omeone says "Man ist was man liest"
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>(One is what one
reads) to which someone </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>more </SPAN>g<SPAN
class=109050200-24082005>iven to the pleasures of the palate might
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>reply "Nein, man
ist was man ISST" (No, one is what one
eats).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=109050200-24082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Fritz
Goerling</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><TT>Fritz Goerling wrote:<BR>> the point of the little
world-play is in the similar-sounding<BR>> "ist" (= is) and "isst" (=
eats).<BR><BR>Are they similar sounding, or identical? If different,
what is the <BR>difference? (I vaguely recall my German prof
claiming that they were <BR>pronounced differently, but not being able to
hear any diff. Of course, <BR>that was before my linguistics
days.)<BR>-- <BR> Mike
Maxwell<BR> Linguistic Data
Consortium<BR>
maxwell@ldc.upenn.edu<BR></TT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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