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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't think before stops you can have a
long/short or fortis/lenis contrast. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Robert</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
Goerling</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:27
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Re: lexical
entries as singulars or plurals</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=109050200-24082005></SPAN>F<SPAN class=109050200-24082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>or me they are identical in pronunciation in
normal speech. Maybe an actor or someone </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=109050200-24082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>who recites poetry
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3>m<SPAN
class=109050200-24082005>ight exaggerate and make the difference by
hissing the double "s".</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>Or someone who wants
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>to
emphasize the </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>d<SPAN class=109050200-24082005>ifference in this little
saying might just put more
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>stress on the "isst." Or there is a
discussion where </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3>s<SPAN class=109050200-24082005>omeone says "Man ist was man
liest" </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>(One is what one reads) to which someone
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=3><SPAN
class=109050200-24082005>more </SPAN>g<SPAN class=109050200-24082005>iven to
the pleasures of the palate might
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=3><SPAN class=109050200-24082005>reply "Nein, man ist was man
ISST" (No, one is what one
eats).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=3></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN class=109050200-24082005><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=3>Fritz
Goerling</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><TT>Fritz Goerling wrote:<BR>> the point of the little
world-play is in the similar-sounding<BR>> "ist" (= is) and "isst" (=
eats).<BR><BR>Are they similar sounding, or identical? If different,
what is the <BR>difference? (I vaguely recall my German prof claiming
that they were <BR>pronounced differently, but not being able to hear any
diff. Of course, <BR>that was before my linguistics days.)<BR>--
<BR> Mike
Maxwell<BR> Linguistic Data
Consortium<BR> maxwell@ldc.upenn.edu<BR></TT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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