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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Fritz,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Certain things are looked favorably in one
language and with disgust in others. Look for example to the positive
reflections in the name of ‘ladybug’ in some languages and opposite<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>tendencies</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> in others. In some languages it is viewed as “insect loved
by God, Mary, Moses, queen”; in others as a simple bug. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Hayim Sheynin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Fritz Goerling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 15, 2005
2:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Lexicog] bat</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>H</span></font><font color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>ow this differs from the positive
connotations of "bat" in Chinese:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>The Chinese have conferred a number of laudatory</span></font><font
face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>names on this mouse-like mammal, such as
'embracing wings, heavenly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>rat, fairy rat, night swallow,' and use
it as a symbol of happiness<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>and long life because its name 'fu' in
Chinese happens to be a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>homonym which means both 'bat' and
'prosperity.' (see the original</span></font><font face=Tahoma><span
style='font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>quote from Noah Jacobs' book)</span></font><font
face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Fritz Goerling<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font
face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>In most dialects of Carrier "bat" is -t'az (variously with or</span></font></tt><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">without the prefix 'u), but in the Lheidli
dialect, spoken</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">around <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Prince
  George</st1:place></st1:City>, this has been replaced by the</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">innovation liyab dut'ai "devil bird",
where dut'ai is</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">"bird" (etymologically, "winged
one") and liyab is</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">from French "le diable".</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">--</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Bill Poser, Linguistics, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType
 w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Pennsylvania</st1:PlaceName></st1:place></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New"><a href="http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~wjposer/">http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~wjposer/</a>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">billposer@alum.mit.edu</st1:PersonName></font></tt><br
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