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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Let us drink for “<span
class=SpellE>handsom</span> life” of both of us. You are right about
Yiddish, or I would rather say <span class=SpellE>Weiber-Taitsch</span>,
etymology,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sheynin comes from the female eponym <span
class=SpellE>Sheine</span>, a <span class=SpellE>femaile</span> name which is
equal to German <span class=SpellE>Schoene</span> (“a beauty”) || <span
class=SpellE>Yafa</span>, Nava, Linda, <span class=SpellE>Ermoza</span>, Bella,
<span class=SpellE>Jamila</span>, <span class=SpellE>Hasana</span>. In Prussian
and Slavic names –in is a relation suffix. So Sheynin is one who relates
to a clan of <span class=SpellE>Sheyna</span>; <span class=SpellE>Zislin</span>
is one who relates to clan of <span class=SpellE>Zisla</span>, <span
class=SpellE>Zeitlin</span> (from <span class=SpellE>Zeitel</span> or <span
class=SpellE>Zeitla</span>), <span class=SpellE>Yentin</span> (from Yenta,
which is in its turn from Romance Gentile/<span class=SpellE>Gentille</span>), etc.
In Russian Karen-in, <span class=SpellE>Trayn</span>-in, <span class=SpellE>Volod</span>-in,
Marin-in, <span class=SpellE>Stal</span>-in, Len-in. But can you <span
class=SpellE>eluminate</span> me, what is the meaning of –in <span
class=SpellE>in</span> Prussian names like Cronin/<span class=SpellE>Kronin</span>
and of similar morphology. Is he related to <span class=SpellE>Krone</span> (a
coin) or to the crown?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In <span class=SpellE>Rissian</span> you
sometime encounter doubling of relation suffixes: Mari-in-<span class=SpellE>skij</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Hayim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Fritz Goerling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 21,
2005 5:10 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Lexicog] blessing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>L</span></font><font color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>e Hayim, Hayim!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>which is a blessing, as you know (for
those who don't: Hayim in Hebrew means "life" and</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Le Hayim/Chaim (literally "To
life!") equals "Cheers!" or "To your health!" in
English, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>"Prost! in German, "Santé!"
in French" when you drink a glass together with someone. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>What do other languages say? I heard in
Spanish: "Salud, amor, y pesetas!" which I liked.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There might be a slight problem with the
etymology you give for your last name.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If it is of Yiddish origin (which it probably
is), then I cannot debate the ending -in because I don't know</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>about its function. But as I understand
"schön" which is definitely German (meaning: handsome,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>beautiful), I have to say that you have
quite a name: Handsome Hayim.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Shalom,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Fritz</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It seems that at least etymologically </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>English
"bless" </span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>connected not with </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>French
"blesser/blessure" (to wound/the wound)</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>but with </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Germanic
"blood" </span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>(in some Old Germanic
dialects blet- / bled- / bloet-, predecessor of modern German Blut).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is possible that ancient Germans
blessed young warriors with some kind of blood ritual or sacrifice. OED brings
Old<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Teutonic etymology, but I think this
cluster is much older<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>Hayim Sheynin
[etymologically Schoenin]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Fritz Goerling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 21,
2005 3:41 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Lexicog] blessing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Si,</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think
there is no connection whatsoever between French "blesser/blessure"
(to wound/the wound)</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>and
"to bless/blessing." This reminds me of a prayer which I once heard
from an American</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>missionary
in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Côte d'Ivoire</st1:country-region></st1:place>
who prayed in French: "Seigneur, blesse-nous" which every French-</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>speaking
person can only understand as "Lord, wound us."</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Fritz</span></font> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Si
wrote:</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> The link between
the Romance idea of wounding (cf Fr la <i><span style='font-style:italic'>la
blessure</span></i>) and blessing also seems significant.</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Si<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>---<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Körnerstraße 1, 01407
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Leipzig</st1:City>, <st1:country-region
 w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>cell: 0049 (0)1627
325868<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><a
href="http://www.qamutiik.net">http://www.qamutiik.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>skype: wickhamsmith<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><br style='mso-special-character:
line-break'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'></span><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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</blockquote>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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