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earliest use of the phrase was in a work by William Blake published in 1818. In
his case, he was actually referring to some sort of <I>real</I> anti-Christ.
Since then, it has taken on the meaning of anyone who moves around cringingly or
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class=820164619-16112005>he one who thought it referred to a plant said he was
mistaken. He had thought of "creeping Jenny" :
<P>creeping Jenny - n.</P>
<P>a loosestrife vine [syn: creeping Charlie, Lysimachia nummularia]</P>
<P><SPAN class=820164619-16112005>Fritz Goerling</SPAN></P></SPAN><SPAN
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face=Arial>What does that mean? I asked a number of American colleagues. None
knew of the</FONT></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=333393416-16112005><FONT
face=Arial>expression. Some thought of blasphemy, another one thought this was
the name of a plant.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=333393416-16112005><FONT face=Arial>Creeping
Jesus.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=333393416-16112005><FONT
face=Arial>Margaret</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR><FONT
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><BR><BR><BR><BR>On 11/16/05 3:06 AM, "Fritz Goerling"
<Fritz_Goerling@sil.org> wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>Recently I
corresponded with someone on this list about the meaning of a
German<BR>compound word following the pattern 'verb/noun + a first name as a
suffix,' like:<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Zappelphilipp = a
boy who can't sit still<BR>Laberheini = rambling person (Heini is short for
Heinrich)<BR>Heulsuse = someone (man or woman) who cries a lot (Suse is short
for Susanne) <BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>I am interested
in knowing how productive this kind of word formation is in English.<BR>I am
not looking for examples like "slick Willie, tricky Dick, nervous Nelly,
honest Abe,"<BR>some of which have become more or less common expressions. I
am interested<BR>in examples of the kind 'participle -ing + first name' which
seem to correspond<BR>to the German pattern mentioned above. Examples would be
"smoking Joe" (for the<BR>boxer Joe Frazier), "studying Jesse," "peeping Tom,"
"doubting Thomas",<BR> especially if they have "made it" to become common
expressions and are<BR>included in the dictionary.<BR></FONT><FONT
face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial>Fritz
Goerling<BR></FONT><FONT
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