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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
class=351365320-10022006><FONT face=Arial size=3><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>"Obsolete" might go one step further. I have heard it used as a club (or
should I say "axe"?)</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
class=351365320-10022006>by people who had an axe to grind and who tried to
expunge words from the</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
class=351365320-10022006>language that did not fit their ideological agenda.
Such language engineering usually</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
class=351365320-10022006>backfires.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
class=351365320-10022006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
class=351365320-10022006>Fritz Goerling </SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>It might be worth asking how various people differentiate "archaic" from
"obsolete" while we're at it.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Andrew Dunbar.<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 2/10/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Fritz
Goerling</B> <<A
href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz_Goerling@sil.org</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN></SPAN>G<SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=3>ood point,
Phil, </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=3>Such a
judgment can kill a word. There is also the possibility of resurrecting or
rejuvenating a word labelled</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=3>"archaic."
Who can hinder creative speakers from doing
so?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><SPAN class=sg>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN><FONT face=Arial
size=3></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=3>Fritz
Goerling</FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=e id=q_1095565aa67eb30a_2>
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<DIV></DIV>thanks Filip, Jimm, I was also hoping to know who was making the
judgement of a term being 'archaic' - the lexicographer or the speaker
consultant(s) or speech community.
<DIV><BR> </DIV>
<DIV>qo'c (later), </DIV>
<DIV>Phil Cash Cash
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Feb 10, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Filip Rudolf wrote:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><BR><B><I><A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
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target=_blank>goodtracks@peoplepc.com</A></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><TT>I
use "archaic" as a term that has documented use in past generations, but
<BR>is no longer used or known by present day speakers. There may be
persons <BR>who recall the term however.<BR>I use "old" for those terms
that may be heard from and used by a few <BR>persons, but are not the
usual word or pronunciation of a word that is
<BR>current.<BR>Jimm<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "phil cash
cash" <<A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:pasxapu@DAKOTACOM.NET"
target=_blank>pasxapu@DAKOTACOM.NET</A>><BR>To: <<A
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com" target=_blank>
lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>><BR>Sent: Thursday, February 09,
2006 3:03 PM<BR>Subject: [Lexicog] archaic entries<BR><BR><BR>> Hi
everybody,<BR>><BR>> I just wanted to ask for some input on the
intent or meaning behind <BR>> defining a dictionary entry as
"archaic."<BR>><BR>> Thanks in advance,<BR>><BR>> Phil Cash
Cash<BR>> University of Arizona<BR><BR><no longer used or known by
present day speakers> Well, perhaps <no longer used> would
suffice. Forms such as 'thou art' or 'thou shalt' are no longer used but
are surely understood by educated speakers. It would be interesting to
have a closer look at such labels as 'old', 'old use', 'archaic',
'obsolescent' or 'obsolete' as the the distinctions between them are not
clear-cut. <BR><BR>Filip<BR><BR></TT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>
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