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<div>Hi All,</div>  <div> </div>  <div>I'm new to the list also, so I'm glad to see who's out there and to introduce myself.</div>  <div> </div>  <div>I do mostly commercial bilingual lexicography for a German publisher, working principally with the language combinations German/English, though I've also worked on Portuguese, Spanish and French projects, all combined with English - nothing as exotic as what many of you do but still lexicography nonetheless. Unfortunately, I do this freelance, so it's an on-and-off kind of thing.</div>  <div> </div>  <div>I also have a MA in computational linguistics, and have done work on (bilingual) semantic hierachies for the purpose of automatic translation as well as automatic document and website classification. I wrote my thesis on the representation of idioms (using fairly strict formal criteria for distinguishing these from collocations and other fixed phrases as defined by Mel'cuk and others) with local grammars
 in electronic lexica. I used Unitex for this which was developed under Maurice Gross at the LADL in Paris. <BR></div>  <div>I agree fully with Robert, that fixed phrases have not received the attention they deserve, though the German dictionary company I work for has given a great effort to gather these somewhat systematically and more importantly has attemted to develop semi-formal criteria for identifying and typographically representing different types of fixed phrases. I have recently been involved in trying to convince a very well-respected American dictionary company the value of this, but am not sure I've succeeded. </div>  <div> </div>  <div>Caroline Reul</div>  <div><BR><B><I>"Amsler, Robert" <robert.amsler@hq.doe.gov></I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><TT>Re: Professions. By discipline I'm a computational linguist, but on this<BR>list I'd say I'm a computational
 lexicologist. I started my career in<BR>CompLex by writing a dissertation titled "The Structure of the<BR>Merriam-Webster Pocket Dictionary," which was, in 1980, about the<BR>largest machine-readable dictionary we could manage to analyze at the<BR>University of Texas in Austin. I extracted, with some help from National<BR>Science Foundation funding, the taxonomic structure of the dictionary<BR>for nouns and verbs, linking them by the kernels of their definitions<BR>until one assembled "trees" out of the whole collection in the pocket<BR>dictionary. This was, it should be noted, a goal established by John<BR>Olney before me, so I can't take credit for the idea, just for finally<BR>managing to complete the trees. That pointed me toward working with<BR>lexicographers since I was curious how dictionaries came to be. That in<BR>turn pointed me toward corpus building and then corpus annotation.<BR><BR>These days I practice my craft helping the Department of Energy create<BR>tools to
 assist in analyzing electronic documents for their contents,<BR>based on figuring out what words and phrases indicate about that content<BR>and trying to coax disambiguated meaning out of lexical entities using<BR>various techniques. <BR><BR>My current interests are in multi-word expressions and what I perceive<BR>as their neglected status in published dictionaries. I'm also interested<BR>in tasks such as automating the construction of dictionaries from<BR>corpora, and in using comparative analysis of the phrases occurring in<BR>text corpora from different but related domains as a means to identify<BR>properties of the two corpora and predict properties of individual<BR>documents.<BR><BR>One question I've been intending to post is, "What is the difference<BR>between jargon and slang?" Is it merely one of generality, from<BR>specialty professions to the general public? I.e., do mathematicians<BR>have both slang and jargon in their writings? Or is jargon professional<BR>and slang
 un-professional, even if specific to a narrow community such<BR>as mathematicians?<BR><BR></TT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

    
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