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> Succumb to the temptation.<br>
<br>
Absolutely! -- Certain expletives ("kicked the bloody bucket") and<br>
classifiers<br>
("kicked the proverbial bucket") can be boldly inserted where no
other<br>
modifier dares to go. From my youth I dimly remember an Australian<br>
humorous poem which contained a line that ran something like this:<br>
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"Up in Wagga bloody Wagga shooting kanga-bloody-roos..."<br>
<br>
These are not counterexamples, IMHO, to the norms of invariance in<br>
Australian place names and vocabulary words.<br>
<br>
What they suggest (to me, at least) is that linguistic theory needs to<br>
distinguish<br>
two kinds of competence: competence in using the norms of a language, and<br>
competence in exploiting those norms. This is of course quite different from<br>
the competence/performance distinction of traditional American linguistics.<br>
I<br>
suppose that all languages contain exploitation rules associated with each<br>
set<br>
of norms, but I do not know of any good account of exploitation rules in any<br>
language. (Do you?) The phenomenon is rarely acknowledged for what it is<br>
-- but lexicographically speaking, is it a very useful distinction.<br>
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Patrick<br>
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----- Original Message ----- <br>
From: "David Tuggy" <david_tuggy@sil.org><br>
To: <lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com><br>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 8:40 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Lexicog] Invariant Phases vs. " Kicked the proverbial
bucket"<br>
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> Succumb to the temptation.<br>
><br>
> --David Tuggy<br>
><br>
> fieldworks_support@sil.org wrote:<br>
> > I'm tempted to suggest that invariancy is a matter of degree.<br>
> ><br>
> > But also it can be a humorous use of language to vary an invariant<br>
phrase.<br>
> > Should a lexicographer include all possible humorous uses of words?
In<br>
my<br>
> > opinion, not unless he was attempting something the scope of the OED.<br>
> ><br>
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