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<div>Dear Fritz, </div> <div> One supposes that the spouse of an elected Head of State might be called upon to take the place of his/her spouse in an official act, albiet a minor one. There has to be a term created by the office of protocol to cover this eventuality. I believe that there have been several female polticians elected to the governorship of states in the US. So what was the official title of their spouse? It gets more complicated if the politician in question reaches high office and has a life partner of the same gender. By the way, Fritz, who was the First Lady in the Adenaur era?<BR><BR><B><I>Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling@sil.org></I></B> escribió:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><!-- Network content --> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <div><!-- Network content --> <DIV class=Section1> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Caroline,<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Good to hear a lady’s voice on this subject.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Madame Chancellor might be used by Jacques Chirac when addressing Angela Merkel in English. But in German it is Frau Bundeskanzlerin. See for a couple of more comments below.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div
class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=ygrp-msg> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Fritz, I think the term is "Madame President," also Madame Chancellor as far as I know. I have never seen Angela Merkel's husband referred to as anything but his proper name or "ihr Mann", though I don't read the German newspapers very often.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><<O> </O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">First
Husband seems to be a possibility, however no one would ever call the First Lady "First Wife" which seems to reduce the person in question to nothing more than another object ! belonging to the office holder, <FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> …</SPAN></FONT><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Would First Husband not also reduce the person in question to nothing more than <O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> another object belonging to the office holder?<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What is interesting, though not relevant to lexicography, is what the office of "First Gengleman" will entail.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> I don’t think the content the function/definition of “First Gentleman” is irrelevant<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> to lexicography because this term will appear some day in the dictionary with a<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div> <div
class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> definition and/or illustrative sentences how it is used.<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Caroline Reul<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling@<WBR>sil.org></SPAN></I></B> wrote:<O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 1pt solid"><!-- Network content --><!-- Network content --> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Chaz,</SPAN></FONT><O></O></div><O></O></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial
color=black size=3><S><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><O></O>This would show to me (also in English and German) that a female head of State</SPAN><O></O></FONT><O></O></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">would not be called First Lady (maybe Mrs. President). I cannot imagine that Hillary Rodham Clinton, should she make it to the top, would be called the First Lady (maybe I am wrong). What I find very funny is the coinage First Gentleman.<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How about Primero Senor or el Hombre Primero in Spanish? Just kidding.<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY:
Arial"><O></O>Fritz<O></O></SPAN></FONT><O></O></div></DIV> <DIV id=ygrp-mlmsg> <DIV id=ygrp-msg> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <DIV> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">When <ST1><ST1><ST1><ST1>Panama</ST1></ST1></ST1></ST1>'s president was a woman (1999-2004) the first lady (Primera <BR>Dama) was her sister. I'm not sure what they would have called the <BR>president's husband but she was not married at the time.<BR><BR>-Chaz<BR><BR><BR><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><O></O> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O></O></SPAN></FONT></div></BLOCKQUOTE><!--End group email --! > <div></div></DIV><!--End group email --> <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=white size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: white"></SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></DIV><!--End group email --></DIV></DIV>
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