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<div>Dear David,</div> <div> Doubtful?<BR><BR><B><I>David Tuggy <david_tuggy@sil.org></I></B> escribió:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><!-- Network content --> <DIV id=ygrp-text> <div>Assumptions or expectations probably reflected in this discussion: <BR>1. en-/em- (or any other morpheme) has only one meaning. (I.e. it is not polysemous.)<BR>2. There is only one path from pieces (morphemes) to overall meaning that can be correct.<BR>3. There is a principled distinction between "basic" and "non-basic" meanings which always obtains. (Of course we may not always be able to discern or demonstrate it.)<BR>4. Once a basic
sense, always the basic sense.<BR>5. If a meaning component (e.g. “make”) can be shown to come from one morpheme in a word, it cannot come from another.<BR>6. If a meaning component (e.g. “make”) can be shown to be absent in one use of a morpheme, it is absent from all. (This may be #1 above in another form.)<BR>7. If a it can be shown that a given meaning component (e.g. “make”) *needn't* be present in a given morpheme, that proves that it *cannot* be present. (Perhaps this is just a stronger form of #6.)<BR><BR>I find all of these assumptions highly dudacious. (dudible? dubitional?)<WBR>.<BR><BR>mhofwiw.<BR><BR>--David Tuggy<BR><BR>Sebastian Drude wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid4540E4F1.4000707@zedat.fu-berlin.de type="cite">Thank you, Kenneth, <BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid20061026161334.10515.qmail@web31712.mail.mud.yahoo.com type="cite">Two examples that come to mind of en- creating an intransitive verb from a noun are enlist, encyst, though both of these verbs can also be used
transitively.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>If one could show that the intransitive sense is the basic one, that would be one more argument against <I>em-/en-</I> as carrier of the sense component "to make".<BR><BR>What I was looking for are derivations of intransitive verbs (possibly with the meaning "to become X") exactly WITHOUT <I>em-/en-</I>. <BR>I probably caused a confusion by mentionning the verbalizing SUFfix <I>-en</I> (as in <I>widen</I>) in this context, easily confused with the prefix in question.<BR><BR>Sebastian<BR><BR><SPAN style="COLOR: white" width="1"></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE> <div></div></DIV><!--End group email --></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><p>
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