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<td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Allan Johnson"
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<p><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">Yes, this sounds good – enabling
a FLEx lexical database to simultaneously support two independent systems
of semantic domains.</font>
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<p><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">Allan J</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ron Moe<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:48 PM<b><br>
To:</b> lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [Lexicog] folk taxonomies and universal semantic domains
within lexical software</font>
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<p><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">… … …One easy way to maintain
both an etic and emic list of domains would be to allow the user to add
an emic number for each domain and sort on either the etic number or the
emic number. The user could then choose which domains are relevant for
his language, organize/renumber them according to his world view, and export
the emic list for publication. But the etic numbers would still be in the
database for reference purposes… … …</font>
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<p><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">Ron Moe</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wayne Leman<b><br>
Sent:</b> Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:19 AM<b><br>
To:</b> lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<b><br>
Subject:</b> [Lexicog] folk taxonomies and universal semantic domains within
lexical software</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Arial">Following is a slightly revised copy of a
message I just sent to a colleague who is on the FieldWorks (FW) team.
The issues are relevant to each of us who attempt to discover indigenous
semantic domains:</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Arial">___, after you skimmed my database before
attempting import to FW FLex, you mentioned that my semantic domains did
not exactly fit Ron Moe's list. Here is why: As Ken Pike used to emphasize,
there are etic and emic approaches to language data. Ron Moe's approach
to lexical research is one of the best I have ever seen. His approach can
gather lexical data in a short period of time what many people used to
take years to collect. (Of course, one can also benefit greatly from other
traditional approaches to lexical data gathering, including text collection
and gleaning those texts for new lexical items.) It is appropriate that
language software be keyed to the good semantic domains that Ron has developed
after careful research of his own, in consultation with others working
in lexicography. (I've had helpful exchanges with Ron, whose work I appreciate
very much.)</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Arial">But for any dictionary, we need to ask who
the audience for it is and whether we want etic or emic categories to be
displayed. *IF* a dictionary is intended to be used by the native speakers
of a language, it is wise to shift from using any universal etic semantic
domain list to the semantic folk taxonomies of those native speakers. As
you probably know, different people in different cultures have differents
semantic domains. So, for display, such as in Lexique Pro (a fantastic
program for use by native speakers for displaying dictionary data), there
is wisdom in using native (emic) semantic domains, rather than those of
a more universal etic set of domains such as those in Ron's DDP (</font><a href=http://www.sil.org/computing/ddp/><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>http://www.sil.org/computing/ddp/</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Arial">).</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Arial">FLex (part of FW) should allow for using Ron's
domains for guiding semantic category discovery, but it should also allow
for converting semantic domains to those actually used by a language/culture
group.</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Arial">We have tried hard over the past 30 years
to work toward using Cheyenne semantic domains so that Cheyennes can locate
lexical items within the semantic domains that they actually use.</font>
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<p><font size=2 face="Arial">Wayne</font>
<p><font size=2 face="Arial">-----<br>
Wayne Leman<br>
Cheyenne dictionary online:</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u><br>
</u></font><a href=http://www11.asphost4free.com/cheyennedictionary/default.htm><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>http://www11.asphost4free.com/cheyennedictionary/default.htm</u></font></a>
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