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I forgot to mention that eretz and ha-aretz (earth, country and this country, i.e.<br> Palestine) is feminine in Hebrew, as names of all countries (cp. Latin names of countries). Hebrew has only two genders, so for Hebrew speakers there is only binary choice.<br> <br> Hayim<br><br><b><i>Fritz Goerling <Fritz_Goerling@sil.org></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <!-- Network content --> <div id="ygrp-text"> <div> <!-- Network content --> </div><div class="Section1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hayim,<o></o></span></font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><o> </o></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">When God told patriarch Abraham to leave his country, relatives and his father’s house<o></o></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">in Gen. 12:1, how is country (erets) perceived by a native speaker of Hebrew? Is there any idea of “fatherland” or “motherland” in modern Hebrew? When Jews make Aliya, do they come back to <st1><st1>Israel</st1></st1> just as “ha erets” (as their “homeland”) or to the land of their fathers?<o></o></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;
color: black;">Is there any politically correct movement, like in the anglophone world, among modern Hebrew speakers who avoid talking about “fathers” and prefer “ancestors?”<o></o></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><o> </o></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Shalom,<o></o></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;"><o> </o></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black;">Fritz<o></o></span></font></div> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id="ygrp-msg"> <div id="ygrp-text"> <div><font face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Dear Ken,<br> <br> On the other hand, what is striking that Latin word patria is feminine. If you can imagine a simile that you country like a mother for you, why patria even it is derived etimologically from pater, cannot be feminine.<br> The same relates to patrimonia. The problem with gender of these words lie<br> not with the language, but rather with the thought. On one hand, you may explain <br> that patria is the country of your forefathers and foremothers and patrimonia is<br> the property (and legacy) of your forefathers and foremothers, on the other that<br> the roots of these words reflect reality of the patriarchal society, where fathers were the "top" persons. <br> <br> --Hayim Sheynin<br> <br> <b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">"Kenneth C. Hill" <kennethchill@<wbr>yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o></o></span></font></div> <blockquote
style="border-left: 1pt solid rgb(16, 16, 255);"><!-- Network content --> <div id="ygrp-text"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Grammatical gender is an insufficient explanation. I find it striking that in Spanish, the word for "fatherland" is grammatically feminine: la patria. Patria is a Latin word derived from pat(e)r 'father' + the feminine derivational suffix -ia.<br> <br> --Ken<br> <br> <b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">saghar sharifi <saghar_sharifi@<wbr>yahoo.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o></o></span></font></div> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 1pt solid rgb(16, 16, 255);"><!-- Network content --> <div id="ygrp-text"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">The answer to your question would be that in some languages, as in German, the word " language " is
feminine.<o></o></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <o></o></span></font></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><b><i><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"> Leman <wayne_leman@<wbr>sil.org></span></font></i></b> wrote:<o></o></div> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 1pt solid rgb(16, 16, 255);"><!-- Network content --> <div id="ygrp-text"> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I'm wondering about English terms for kinds of languages:<br> <br> Why do we speak of a mother tongue but not a father tongue?<br> <br> Why do we speak of sister languages but not brother languages?<br> <br> Why are there daughter languages but not son languages?<br> <br> Why can we refer to both a motherland and a
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