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<font size="-1"><font face="Comic Sans MS">Hi Allan,<br>
<br>
How about if you use \sn 1, \sn 2 etc under each \se with more than one
gloss? Sorry, I'm tied up today and can't test it before sending this
suggestion, but it seems it ought to work.<br>
<br>
Kim<br>
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Allan Johnson wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Ok, I did
some testing on these
suggestions. I ran into a problem with the way MDF handles glosses. It
allows
only one gloss in a subentry. If more than one gloss per subentry
appears in
the data, Lexique Pro concatenates them in the display. <o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">The way this
proto-language data is
structured, it needs to be able to use the gloss as a level of the
hierarchy,
so that under one “\se attested form” there can be more than one
“\ge English gloss”, each with its own list of source languages.
But MDF/Lexique Pro doesn’t allow this. Here’s a sample entry:<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">\lx *abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge to
travel with<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \se abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge
wedding attendant<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \xv AB<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge to
travel together
at sea, in separate boats<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \xv NS.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \xv
CS.2-3<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \xv NB.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \se abayan<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge fleet<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \xv CS.2<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">What
MDF/Lexique Pro does with this where
there is more than one gloss in a subentry, is collect together the
glosses and
display them together like this:<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">*abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> to travel
with<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> wedding
attendant; to
travel together at sea, in separate boats<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> AB<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> NS.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> CS.2-3<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> NB.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> abayan<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> fleet<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> CS.2<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">That’s not
good. Some information
has been lost. What I would need it to do is to let each gloss remain
associated with its own list of source language abbreviations, like
this:<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">*abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> to travel
with<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> wedding
attendant<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> AB<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> to travel
together at
sea, in separate boats<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> NS.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> CS.2-3<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> NB.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> abayan<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> fleet<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> CS.2<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">So it seems
that I do need to put the
glosses somewhere else other than in the \ge fields. They need to be in
a field
that is treated as a level of the hierarchy. For now, I do have a way
to handle
it that seems to display OK in Lexique Pro. If I represent it as
follows:<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">\lx *abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ps to
travel with<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \se abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ps
wedding attendant<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge AB<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ps to
travel together
at sea, in separate boats<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge NS.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge
CS.2-3<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge NB.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \se abayan<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ps fleet<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> \ge CS.2<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Then it
displays like this:<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">*abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> to travel
with<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> abay<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> wedding
attendant<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> AB<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> to travel
together at
sea, in separate boats<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> NS.1;
CS.2-3; NB.1<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> abayan<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> fleet<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> CS.2<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">But as I
mentioned in my previous note, this
use of \ps feels like a bit of an abuse of the MDF standard.<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Yes, it
would be good to have a
standardized way to handle this kind of data. I guess the place to
start would
be to collect together various examples of such data. Are there other
examples?
I have no idea whether what I’m looking at is typical for
proto-language
data. I guess it’s a rather rare type of data compared to MDF-type
dictionaries. <o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">It might not
be too difficult to tweak the
MDF CC tables to tell it not to concatenate glosses, and to incorporate
whatever other tweaks would be needed. But it would also be necessary
to have
similar adjustments made in Lexique Pro. I wouldn’t want to mess with
this unless we really had something that a number of people could make
good use
of.<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Allan<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b><st1>Ron
Moe</st1><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March
23, 2007 2:30
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Lexicog]
how to compile
data on proto-language reconstruction</span></font><o></o></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">Allan,<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">It looks like the
structure of your
comparative dictionary is nearly the same as the MDF entry-subentry
format
(with the addition of language names):<o></o></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">\lx Proto-form<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">\ge English gloss<o></o></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">
\se Attested form<o></o></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">
\ge English gloss<o></o></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">
\ex Language name (any vernacular field would do)<o></o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">It would be nice
if we had a standardized
format for comparative dictionaries similar to MDF. It wouldn’t take
much
to produce one by modified MDF.<o></o></span></font></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;"><o> </o></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><st1><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: blue;">Ron Moe</span></font></st1><font
color="blue"><span style="color: blue;"><o></o></span></font></p>
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[mailto:<st1>lexicographylist@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Allan Johnson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March
22, 2007
1:32 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1>lexicographylist@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</st1><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Lexicog] how
to compile
data on proto-language reconstruction</span></font><o></o></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hi all,<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I’m
trying to help a colleague get a collection of Proto language data into
a
format that could be posted on a website. We have it in a Toolbox
format and
I’d like to export it to HTML from Lexique Pro. The format is a lot
like
a dictionary but enough different that I’m running into trouble. A
typical entry goes something like this:<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Proto-form<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
English gloss<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Attested form<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
English gloss<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name (abbreviation for a language/dialect area which attests
this form
and meaning)<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
English gloss<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Attested form<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
English gloss<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
Language name <o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">The only way
I’ve found to make this work with Toolbox / Lexique Pro is to put the
English gloss in the \ps field and the language abbreviations in the
\ge field.
But this feels like a major abuse of the system. Do any of you know of
a format
that’s really meant for this kind of data?<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o> </o></span></font><o></o></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Allan J.<o></o></span></font><o></o></p>
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