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Bill,<br><br>I totally support your ideas. I have an experience connected to compiling<br>Ladino-English comprehensive dictionary. It had be done in Israel in the period when computers were not used in humanities. From the large Ladino-English<br>cartoteque in Ben-Zvi Institute, Jerusalem, compiled in the 60s, by the team of researchers, in 1976 there was prepared a sample fasciscle of the words beginning from one particular letter of Hebrew alphabet (Gimel). The dictionary was of an historical use, so the variants and meanings of the words were mentioned for all literary works since 1492 up to end of Ladino printing in pre-Holocaust period with small additions from newspapers published after WW2 and it was done in scholarly fashion with references to etimolology and uses in Old Spanish and contact languages. The dictionary was excellent, but the publication was financed by the community of wealthy Sepharadim (mostly uneducated businessmen) and they wanted completely
different version (the use of contemporary spoken language)*. And since the publication depended on their finances, the project died and the enormous labor invested in preparation of the cartoteque is lost for scholars.<br>The cartoteque is still preserved covered under dust in the Institute.<br><br>Several Ladino-English dictionaries appeared since then, but nothing on this scale. And it seems that their compilers are catering to the tests of lower level users.<br>__________________________________________________<br>* They didn't understand that there was no standard literary language, and<br>if the team of the dictionary compilers had switch to their suggestion, they would <br>receive the words of many dialects to which solution they disagreed either. <br><br>Hayim Y. Sheynin<br><br><b><i>billposer@alum.mit.edu</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <!-- Network content -->
<div id="ygrp-text"> <div><br> One point to keep in mind with regard to the different<br> audiences for dictionaries is that once a dictionary is<br> in electronic form and can readily be printed in multiple<br> forms, it is not necessarily the case that we need to<br> settle on a single form for publication. It is quite<br> possible to generate a version with lots of technical<br> terminology and grammatical indices for linguists, another<br> with no technical terminology and large type for the<br> elders who already know the language and just want<br> to browse and see that everything i correct, and still<br> another for the non-linguist language learner with<br> smaller type so as to be more portable and aids for<br> learners
such as a topical index. For some classes<br> of users, there may be no need for a paper version<br> at all - the ability to search the database may be<br> quite sufficient.<br> <br> There are sometimes factors (usually political) that<br> make such multiple publication impractical, but I <br> suggest that it is wise to get away from the traditional<br> notion that a dictionary will take a single form.<br> <br> Bill<br> <br> </div> </div> <!--End group email --> </blockquote><br><p>
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