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Vincent,<br>
<br>
This is an interesting challenge. If you send me a couple of records
which contain all the possible combinations of fields (or at least most
of them), I'll take a stab at it.<br>
<br>
Norbert Rennert<br>
<br>
<br>
Vincent `Bentong` S. Isles wrote:
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<p>Hi Mike,<br>
<br>
I had hoped to use CC to automate the production of what I call the<br>
"spelling rationale" (\sr) field.<br>
<br>
A single entry may have any of these fields: \et, \bw, \mr, but never<br>
two or three of them.<br>
<br>
The logic is this:<br>
* If \et is present then it becomes \sr.<br>
* If \mr is present and it is different from \lx after stripping \lx<br>
of hyphens, then it becomes \sr.<br>
* If \bw is present:<br>
** If the first parameter is "en":<br>
*** If \ge!= \lx then \sr = "en" + ge; else \sr = "en"<br>
** else \sr = \bw<br>
<br>
I hope you did get lost with that logic because I was not able to<br>
translate it to CC statements. I guess I'm not very good with computers
:(<br>
<br>
The \sr field gets formatted as follows:<br>
<br>
aba (native word: no \sr field)<br>
abaka [Tag] (Tagalog word borrowed as is)<br>
amatyur [Eng fi:amateur] (English word borrowed with change in sp)<br>
kasub-anan [ka-SUBO-anan] (derived word with the root not so obvious)<br>
<br>
This is for the "Cebuano Spelling Dictionary", a stripped-down version<br>
of the "Modern Cebuano Dictionary".<br>
<br>
Thanks for the offer on the parser, but I think I don't have the cash<br>
for the xerox tools.<br>
<br>
For now I've stopped work on that part of the project.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the information. :)<br>
<br>
--Bentong Isles<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:lexicographylist%40yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>,
Mike Maxwell <maxwell@...<wbr>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Vincent `Bentong` S. Isles wrote:<br>
> > I would like to know that "complex procedure". I had spent
half of<br>
> > yesterday and the whole of today trying to understand the
Consistent<br>
> > Changes program, and I do very well think of CC when you wrote<br>
> > "complex" :)<br>
> <br>
> It might be useful to say what you're hoping to use cc for.
Cebuano <br>
> morphology is very complex, with reduplication and infixing, and
if <br>
> you're trying to go from stems or inflected words to roots, I
don't <br>
> think I would recommend cc. What you really need is a morphological<br>
parser.<br>
> <br>
> It happens that I wrote a morphological parser for Cebuano several<br>
years <br>
> ago. I won't claim that it does everything right--I basically
wrote it <br>
> in a couple hours, and tweaked it a little after that--it would<br>
probably <br>
> work better than one could do with cc. I did it while I was working<br>
for <br>
> the Linguistic Data Consortium (LDC), and I'll have to ask them
whether <br>
> it's sharable. It uses the Xerox finite state tools, for which you<br>
have <br>
> to pay $40 (the CD comes in a book from U of Chicago press). If
that's <br>
> of interest, let me know and I'll see what the LDC says.<br>
> <br>
> On the other hand, if you're trying to fix spelling errors, a
parser <br>
> won't help you fix them (it might help you find them). A program
like <br>
> cc might be usable to fix some classes of errors, provided you have<br>
some <br>
> notion of what common errors are (substituting a 'c' for a 'k',
for <br>
> example).<br>
> <br>
> Also, there are other programs that do more or less the same thing
that <br>
> cc does. These come largely from the Unix/ Linux world, but are <br>
> available on DOS and in the Windows command prompt. These are
programs <br>
> like sed and awk (and more recently, Unicode-compatible versions of<br>
such <br>
> programs, often written in Perl). Depending on where you are (at a
<br>
> university, for example), you may be able to find people who can
help <br>
> you with these programs more easily than with cc.<br>
> -- <br>
> Mike Maxwell<br>
> maxwell@...<br>
><br>
<br>
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