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(mentioned in another email, baptee and dediquee).<br>
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Of these, counselee makes the most sense; it is transparent if you
derive it from the verb counsel, and the -er/-or difference doesn't
matter to a lot of people. (The spellings counseler and counseller are
not that rare, though of course they are "the vast minority" compared
to counselor.) But don [dōn], bapt, ment, and dedic are not verbs.
don[or] and ment[or] could be backformations, but even that doesn't
explain bapt and dedic very well.<br>
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--David Tuggy <br>
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John Roberts wrote:
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Fritz and David,<br>
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Other words of the same form as "mentor/mentee/mentoree" return the
same results as "mentee vs. mentoree" off google, e.g.<br>
<br>
donor<br>
donee 832,000<br>
donoree 703<br>
<br>
counselor<br>
counselee 52,200<br>
counseloree 3<br>
<br>
So, on this basis "mentee" is the generally accepted derivation from
"mentor" for English speakers.<br>
<br>
John Roberts<br>
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<br>
Fritz Goerling wrote:
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<p><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> I discussed with </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> David Frank, </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> an SIL colleague on this list </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> , whether </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> ” </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">
mentee </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> ” </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> or </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> “ </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">
mentoree </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> ” </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> is more common. </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> As he encouraged me to present this issue to the
lex-list, here is what he wrote: </span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> “ </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> First of all, the word
"mentoree" was new to me. I realize that there is a lacuna in the
English language, where a good word does not seem to be available for
such an important concept. I have heard "mentee" used before, which
doesn't sound quite natural t o me either. I am not sure what other
term ought to be used. Since training is not my specialty, I decided to
do a Google search to find out how widely the term "mentoree" is used,
and also "mentee." The term "mentoree" returned only 31,100 hits and
"ment e </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> e"
returned 801,000 hits, which would seem to indicate to me that the
latter is the more widely-accepted term. But feel free to ask others. I
only suggest that you ask people outside your local circle, since
"mentoree" might have become normalized as a so r </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> t of local dialectal term that
is not so widely known elsewhere. </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> … </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> nei ther of them seems to me
to be a good English word. </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> ” </span><span lang="en-us"><span lang="en-us"></span></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> In training
circles, </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> I have
heard </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> “ </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> mentoree </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> ” </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us">
more than </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> “ </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> mentee </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> ” <span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> but probably David is right. From the point of view of
word formation, </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> “
</span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> mentoree </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> ” </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> as a derivation which shows where the word </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> comes </span><span
lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us"> from </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> , viz. </span><span lang="en-us"></span><
SPAN LANG="en-us"> “ </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> mentor </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"> ” </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span lang="en-us">
seems more natural to me. </span><span lang="en-us"></span><span
lang="en-us"></span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"> Comments? </span></p>
<p><span lang="en-us"> Fritz Goerling </span><span lang="en-us"></span></p>
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John R Roberts
SIL International Linguistics Consultant
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