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feeling of a scholar (philologist,<br>linguist, literary scholar) or an impression of a common reader.<br>4. Are in German literary references of <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; height: 1em; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" id="lw_1183219840_7">Shakespeare and his sources<br>are better understood?</span><br>5. Do <span style="border-bottom: 1px dashed rgb(0, 102, 204); background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; cursor: pointer; height: 1em; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" id="lw_1183219840_7">Shakespeare's witticisms and phraseology sound better in translation?<br>6. Can anybody state that KJV of the Bible or German Luther's translation<br>or any other translation of the Bible be better than Hebrew
original.<br>7. Can anybody state that any translation of a classical work (I mean <br>one written in classical Greek or ancient Latin) </span>be better than the original?<br>8. There are many excellent translations from language A to language B,<br>and how laudable they can be they never are going to be equal to the<br>original.<br>9. If somebody who tried his hand in translation can confirm the statement <br>above, it would be interesting to analyze this.<br>However taking in account all the aspects of translation it is very difficult<br>to accept this opinion.<br><br>Hayim Sheynin <br><br><b><i>bolstar1 <bolstar1@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <!-- Network content --> <div id="ygrp-text"> <div>Bill: Now I'm chuckling over your point about Shakespeare reading <br> better in German than in English(I know it wasn't your own statement, <br> but it was just so darn cute.) This would be an example of the use of, <br> for lack of a better term, hyperbolic hyperbole. I have always thought <br> it a waste of time, personally, to have read through all of 'War and <br> Peace' -- you know, that tidbit of a book by Leo-the-Sparse -- without <br> enjoying Leo's rhetorical genius (Oh, what I must have missed in the <br> translation.<wbr>) Leo T.quaintly once said of Shakespeare, ""The works of <br> Shakespeare, borrowed as they are, and externally, like mosaics, <br> artificially fitted together piecemeal from bits invented for the <br> occasion, have nothing whatever in common with art and poetry." <br> Granted, Tolstoy may have been in a temporary stupor, or maybe his <br>
wife had spilled hot coffee on his pants that morning, or perhaps he <br> didn't read a German translation of Shakespeare.<wbr>.....but whatever the <br> reason, he may be in on the theory that Shakespeare wasn't such a hot <br> literary number as he is purported to be. I'd like to see more proof of <br> this though. <br> <br> Scott Nelson<br> <br> <br> --- In <a href="mailto:lexicographylist%40yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a>, billposer@..<wbr>. wrote:<br> ><br> > I have been told by people whose knowledge of both<br> > Shakespeare and German is better than my own that<br> > Shakespeare is better in German translation.<br> > It seems odd that anything would be better in translation,<br> > but I suppose that the English of Shakespeare is sufficiently<br> > different from Modern English that this may be like saying<br> > that Shakespeare is better in Modern German translation than<br> > in Modern English
translation, which is not so implausible.<br> > <br> > Bill<br> ><br> <br> </div> </div> <!--End group email --> </blockquote><br><p>
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