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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2>Fritz --</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2>I think what Scott meant was that the
New Testament as most people know it today -- i.e. in translation -- is derived
from the Greek (original). I understood his point to be that while the Old
Testament was originally written in Hebrew and Aramaic, the New Testament was
originally written in Greek.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2>Hayim had an interesting theory that
what we call the New Testament may have originally been written in Hebrew. That
is an intriguing idea, but as far as I know it is just a theory or speculation,
though as you said, Fritz, there is sometimes evidence of a Hebrew
substratum. As we have been discussing idiomatic phrases, I understand
that "son(s) of" as in "sons of thunder," "son of perdition," etc. is a
Hebrew idiom that was carried over literally into the Greek New Testament
scriptures. But you know this better than I do, Fritz.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2>I have sometimes said something
similar to what Hayim said. I have pointed out that the Greek New Testament
scriptures were a translation in themselves, in that the words of Jesus and his
followers would have been uttered in Aramaic but written down in Greek. Except
for those few cases that Hayim mentioned where the Aramaic utterances were
transliterated rather than translated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Unicode MS" size=2>-- your friend and
colleague David Frank</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=Fritz_Goerling@sil.org href="mailto:Fritz_Goerling@sil.org">Fritz
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 30, 2007 6:40
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Re: When Semantics
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt">Sorry, Scott, the NT was not derived from Greek
but written in Greek.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sometimes the Greek
shows a Hebrew substratum. The New Testament was <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">not translated from
Greek either but written in Greek. Paul is more known as
the<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">apostle to the
Gentiles.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fritz
Goerling</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hayim, I liked your points, point by point. <BR>I'm a
little confused though about your reference to the Bible <BR>translation. The
New Testament needs differentiation from the Old <BR>Testament. The New
Testament was derived from Greek, not Hebrew. It <BR>was clumped together with
the Old Testament, into what modern <BR>Christians call "The Bible." Hebrew
(Aramaic language), with Hebrew <BR>writing being the source text of the Old
Testament (written and <BR>spoken by Hebrews) -- was copied, text for text,
point by point, <BR>iota by iota........<WBR>from generation to generation --
assumably from <BR>the hand of Moses himself. <BR>But the New Testament,
largely written by Paul the Apostle to <BR>Greek cities and Greek Christians,
was translated from Greek. <BR><BR>Scott Nelson</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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