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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=937092317-30072007><FONT color=#0000ff>Hi
Cheryl,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=937092317-30072007><FONT color=#0000ff>I'll
answer on-line because I think this is an issue that many of us face. (1) I
think we all need to upgrade our dictionaries to unicode. (2) I didn't know how
to do it and had to get help :( (3) There is help. SIL has a department
that works on non-Roman scripts, including Unicode conversion help. Their
website has some tools and resources (<A
href="http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&cat_id=EncConvRes">http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&cat_id=EncConvRes</A>).
Perhaps others with more expertise can add more.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=937092317-30072007><FONT color=#0000ff>Ron
Moe</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Cheryl
Reitz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 29, 2007 9:06 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Lexicog] Hebrew and
Greek Shoebox databases<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P>Hello Ron, I was intrigued when you mentioned converting your <BR>database
to Unicode; maybe you can help me troubleshoot a Unicode <BR>conversion
problem. I am working with a Toolbox database (5000+ <BR>entries in Sudanese
language, Mabaan, data collected over 30 years by <BR>my neighbour Betty
Miller, now 84). It is now in an SIL font (Mabaan <BR>Sophia) and I want to
convert all into Arial MS Unicode font. There <BR>are several characters in
the Vernacular we must search-replace to do <BR>this (they show up as
corrupted when we change to Arial MS Unicode). <BR>We know the 4-digit
hex-characters we now have and that we want to <BR>convert them to, but we are
having difficulties with inputting these <BR>in the Toolbox Search-Replace
interface. Do you have any pointers on <BR>how to do this? Perhaps there is a
way to export the Vernacular <BR>fields, convert in Word, then re-import?
Sorry, I'm just starting out <BR>on this software and Betty does not know much
about it herself. <BR>She's an expert on Mabaan, not computers! Many, many
thanks. Cheryl <BR>Reitz <BR><BR>--- In <A
href="mailto:lexicographylist%40yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
"Ron Moe" <ron_moe@...<WBR>> <BR>wrote:<BR>><BR>> I can send you
my dictionary and will gladly do so for free. (I'll <BR>send it<BR>>
separately off-line or upload it to a website as Wayne Leman has
<BR>suggested.)<BR>> It is a "work in progress," so I make no guarantees of
completeness <BR>or<BR>> accuracy. It does have all the words in the NT and
a few others. It <BR>has all<BR>> the words in Louw and Nida and all the
words in Greenlee's "A New <BR>Testament<BR>> Greek Morpheme Lexicon" which
according to the introduction <BR>contains all the<BR>> words in Bauer,
Arndt, and Gingrich's "A Greek-English Lexicon of <BR>the New<BR>>
Testament and Other Early Christian Literature." My dictionary has <BR>almost
no<BR>> semantic information because I was developing it as a basis
for<BR>> interlinearizing the NT. For this reason I concentrated on such
<BR>things as<BR>> identifying the underlying form of each stem. I've also
done a lot <BR>of work<BR>> analyzing derivational morphology. I've
included as much <BR>etymological<BR>> information as I could glean from a
variety of sources.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Unfortunately when I
modified the original Toolbox database in <BR>preparation<BR>> for merging
it with Louw and Nida's dictionary and importing it into<BR>> FieldWorks, I
made significant modifications to it over a period of <BR>months.<BR>> I'm
now trying to find a stable and usable version among the 100 or <BR>so<BR>>
backup copies of the database on my hard drive. It will take me a <BR>day or
two<BR>> to find or create a good version of it and convert it to unicode.
I <BR>was<BR>> using the old Ulysses font, but the newer unicode Galatia
font is <BR>much<BR>> better.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> The best
thing would be to get permission to use my version of Louw <BR>and<BR>>
Nida's dictionary, which I have converted to the unicode Galatia <BR>font. It
is<BR>> classified according to Louw and Nida's domains, as well as mine.
<BR>It has all<BR>> their definitions. It has my grammatical and
etymological <BR>information. All<BR>> complex forms are linked to their
roots. It is now in both Toolbox <BR>and<BR>> FieldWorks formats. In short
it has lots of very nice features. In <BR>the<BR>> process of importing it
into FieldWorks we had to break some links, <BR>which I<BR>> am in the
process of restoring. But Louw and Nida's dictionary is a<BR>> wonderful
tool.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ron Moe<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> _____ <BR>> <BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:lexicographylist%40yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>
[mailto:<A
href="mailto:lexicographylist%40yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>]
On Behalf Of Hayim Sheynin<BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:27
PM<BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:lexicographylist%40yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>>
Subject: RE: [Lexicog] Hebrew and Greek Shoebox databases<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Dear Ron,<BR>> <BR>> Can you tell me, how I can
purchase this Toolbox Biblical Greek <BR>dictionary.<BR>> Is it for
Septuagint and New Testament or only for NT? How much <BR>does it cost<BR>>
and from whom can I order it?<BR>> <BR>> Excuse me for so many
questions.<BR>> <BR>> Sincerely,<BR>> <BR>> Hayim Y. Sheynin
<BR>> <BR>> Ron Moe <ron_moe@...<WBR>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> I
have a Toolbox lexicon for Biblical Greek that has minimal <BR>glosses,
but<BR>> fairly extensive morphological information. At least it has all
the <BR>words,<BR>> plus paradigm information (genitive ending for nouns),
part of <BR>speech, root,<BR>> morphological breakdown of complex forms,
etc. I also have a <BR>Toolbox version<BR>> of Louw and Nida's dictionary
that I am working on. (I've also <BR>loaded it<BR>> into FieldWorks.) I'm
merging my dictionary with Louw and Nida's to <BR>create a<BR>> more useful
version of Louw and Nida. But I can't distribute it <BR>because of<BR>>
copyright restrictions. If you got permission from UBS, I could <BR>give you
a<BR>> copy.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Ron Moe<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> _____ <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From:
lexicographylist@<WBR>...<BR>> [mailto:lexicograph<WBR>ylist@...<WBR>] On
Behalf Of Fritz Goerling<BR>> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:47 AM<BR>>
To: lexicographylist@<WBR>...<BR>> Subject: [Lexicog] Hebrew and Greek
Shoebox databases<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> A colleague of mine asked
the following question:<BR>> <BR>> Please does anyone know if there are
Biblical Hebrew and Greek<BR>> Shoebox/Toolbox lexicons available (i.e.
where the lexical entry <BR>\lx is<BR>> the Hebrew or Greek word) where a
translator could add an extra <BR>field<BR>> with the word(s) they use in
their local language translation?<BR>> <BR>> Fritz Goerling<BR>>
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