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<DIV><FONT size=2>As I have said recently, I would discourage adding anything in
the part of speech field that is not really a part of speech label. You could
put labels like noun, verb, adj., etc., but I wouldn't put anything in the part
of speech field for entries that are more than one word. I would not use labels
like phrase or NP or idiom in the part of speech field nor anywhere else.
Crockett has already pointed out that such labels don't belong in the sense
number field either. My feeling [and the use of this term brings to mind the
other discussion we were having] is that they don't belong anywhere. But I
don't know what people are normally taught to do in the case of idioms or
phrases when using Shoebox or Toolbox and MDF, and I don't know how
the printout would look if the part of speech field were left out or left blank.
The software ought to be programmed in such a way as to give
reasonable results, or at least there ought to be a way of tricking the
software into doing what you need it to do.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I don't use Toolbox and MDF and I am not a programmer, but I
believe there should be some Toolbox/MDF experts listening in who can tell how
to get the results you want, if the software is capable of it. Cheryl, if you
could send examples in an e-mail rather than as an attachment, you might get
some help. Show the raw Toolbox or Shoebox output with backslashes and field
codes, and then show how that is formatted with MDF, and then
reformat it the way you think it should look and ask for help getting it that
way.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>-- David Frank</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cheryl.reitz@shawcable.com
href="mailto:cheryl.reitz@shawcable.com">Cheryl Reitz</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com
href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 06, 2008 2:51
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Lexicog] Lexical Relations
vs. Etymology - using "idiom" in the \ps field</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>T<SPAN class=476121607-06032008>hanks,
Crockett,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=476121607-06032008>Yes, this problem does turn up, as you surmised, with
any Data Range item under \ps other than the first \ps
item for the lexeme. There is both a new sense number listing and a
new line. There should be one or the other, but not both, I
think. If you can help us to troubleshoot this problem, we
will be most grateful as we hope to publish the first "official" version this
weekend. I have prepared a 2MB PDF file of the first few pages of our
Mabaan (a Sudan language) dictionary, which illustrates this problem. I would
have attached it but don't know the protocol here. If you (or anyone
else) wants to see this, let me know if I am allowed to attach
it to something sent out to the group. If not, please send me an e-mail
address outside the group and I will send the PDF to
you.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=476121607-06032008>Warm greetings,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=+0><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=476121607-06032008>Cheryl</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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