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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I’m sorry, but I disagree quite a bit with your statements. See
for my remarks and questions within your response.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Fritz Goerling<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm sorry, but I disagree in the extreme with your statement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Various major religions define and have defined marriage in many
different ways, <font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> I would say in “some”
and ”somewhat” different ways.” The three monotheistic
religions differ not so much traditionally in their definition of marriage.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>and it is not merely religions that define what marriage is (e.g., <st1:country-region
w:st="on">France</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region>,
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Turkey</st1:country-region></st1:place>,
where the religious ceremony has no legal meaning). <font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Sure, not only
religions define what marriage is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Take Buddhism, for example, many sects of which recognize same-sex
marriage. <font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Is what you call “same
sex MARRIAGE” called “marriage” or how is it being referred
to in Buddhism? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Another example is Christianity, many sects of which also recognize
same-sex marriage. <font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> Can you mention a few?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>AFAIK same-sex marriage has been happening for several hundred years (I
believe at least 1000) within Christianity. <font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> To my knowledge what you call
“same-sex MARRIAGE” has traditionally not been called “marriage”
in Christianity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On May 17, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Fritz Goerling wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font color=black><span style='color:black'>Not to my – certainly limited
- knowledge, Benjamin.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>All major
religions. although having somewhat differing understandings of marriage,
recognize that marriage involves the union of the two complementary sexes in a
relationship that normally is for childbearing and childrearing.<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Whether it is legitimate to refer to
same-sex<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>unions</span></i><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>as
‘marriage’ is debated and certainly not widely accepted.<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o style="font-size: 0px;"> </o></span></font><font
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background:white'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Fritz Goerling<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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background:white'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Benjamin Barrett wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Marriage has been known to encompass
same-sex couples for at least 2000 years, though lexicographers did not reflect
that fact in their dictionaries.<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Georgia><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
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background:white'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>In modern times, dictionaries have
recognized the word marriage as including same-sex couples for the last decade
give or take a few years. Many same-sex couples have used the word marriage to
refer to their situation for years before that, regardless of their legal
status or whether dictionaries recognized it. Lexicographically, nothing
happened in<st1><st1>California</st1></st1><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>as
laws recognizing same-sex marriage were already present in other countries. BB<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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background:white'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On May 17, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Fritz
Goerling wrote:<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='background:white'><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Right - the “nemesis.” What do
lexicographers do with youthful unorthodox uses of words like
“wicked” or “bad” to mean “good/cool” which
usually go out of fashion soon?” Slang dictionaries? Or what to do with
the recent judicial redefinition of marriage by the Supreme Court in<st1><st1><st1><st1>
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1></st1></st1></st1></st1:place></st1:State>?<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Georgia><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:black'><o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='background:white;background-repeat:initial;background-attachment:
initial'><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:navy'>Fritz Goerling</span></font><o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><font
size=2 color=black face=Georgia><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
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