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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Well, Chaz,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I thought you were pulling my leg as Neal
did with ‘seldom’ and ‘random’? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You are guessing right: the –tum in
Datum has absolutely nothing to do with –tum in Heiligtum.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>An
unmentioned scholar shared with me off-list: </span></font><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Datum
is a result of the substantivation of a participle datus, data, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>datum. As a rule for the new
nouns formed this way the form of neutrum <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>is selected. It is
participle of the verb do, dedi, datum, dare. </span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>He thought it was me who had suggested ‘Datum’ (which
I would never do) so I pass that information on to you. As your wife is German,
you certainly know that ‘Datum’ in German means ‘date‘
(like ‘What date is today’?)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For those who don’t understand the
incident from your German class, here is the explanation: Dung = manure, and ‘Kuhdung’
is ‘cow manure‘. The latter is not used in the figurative sense as ‘a
load of bull’ like in American English. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Fritz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:navy'>Chaz wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I mean,
is the -tum in Datum anologous to the -tum in Heiligtum? (I am guessing it
isn't.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>One of my fellow German teachers from years ago grew up in <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Texas</st1:place></st1:State>. He took German
class in school anyway and once his teacher said "all words ending in -ung
are feminine nouns." He then raised his hand and said "What about der
Dung?" And the teacher said, "OK, all nouns except that one are
feminine." He raised his hand again and asked "What about der
Kuhdung?" Then the teacher kicked him out of class!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-Chaz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Fritz Goerling wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Georgia><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>What d’you mean, Chaz?<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o style="font-size: 0px;"> </o></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Dom da dom dom... ?<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o style="font-size: 0px;"> </o></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>- Fritz<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o style="font-size: 0px;"> </o></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Fritz,<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o></span></font><font size=2
color=black face=Georgia><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'><o style="font-size: 0px;"> </o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>What about Datum?<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black'><o style="font-size: 0px;"> </o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>-Chaz<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>On Oct 14, 2008, at 7:09 AM,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:Neal_Brinneman@sil.org">Neal_Brinneman@<wbr>sil.org</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>wrote:<o style="font-size: 0px;"></o><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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sheikhdom<br>
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seldom<br>
earldom<br>
random<br>
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Neal<br>
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