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<div>Fritz,</div>
<div><x-tab> </x-tab>If
memory serves, Ken Pike continued playing volleyball well into his
seventies.</div>
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<div>Rich Rhodes</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Thanks, Rich,<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">I like that: "game sense" and "ball
sense."</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">I'll see what kind<i> sense</i> I'll have when I
play beach volleyball this week for the first time in my life at an
age over 60.</font><br>
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color="#000080">Fritz</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>People say "game sense" (49
million hits on google). And "ball sense" (13 million hits).
And there are plenty of less than professional quality ball players
who have good ball sense and good game sense.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>But ball sense doesn't really apply to
golf. It means the player knows were the ball is going to be and so
reacts appropriately, so it applies to games in which the player must
react to the path of ball (soccer, American football, basketball,
baseball, tennis, field hockey, etc.). (Interestingly, I had never
heard "puck sense" for ice hockey, but it gets a million
hits on google and the definition matches "ball sense".)<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Game sense is about understanding the
flow of the game, and again is mostly about tactics and players'
ability to solve tactical problems. Doesn't really apply to golf. It
even seems odd to me for tennis.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Rich Rhodes<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font color="#000080">Scott,</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">I wonder how you define "Sprachgefühl."
That would help me to answer your question.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">I also wonder why certain words are borrowed from
other languages. English has not</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">borrowed "Ballgefühl" which exceptional
players of games have where a ball plays a role</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1"
color="#000080">(Diego Maradona, Tiger Woods, Rafael Nadal). How would
one say "Ballgefühl" in English?</font><br>
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color="#000080">Fritz Goerling</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Is this the wrong list to ask whether, in
your opinion or research,<br>
Sprachgefuhl varies most by class, region, or level of education?<br>
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Scott Catledge<br>
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Department of Linguistics<br>
University of California<br>
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Voice (510) 643-7325<br>
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Department of Linguistics<br>
University of California<br>
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