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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#002060" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060'>I have wav and mp3 files and they all
work fine in Lexique Pro. I use mp3 more now since they are smaller in size
than the wav files. I agree with Wayne about having the lexical and audio files
in the same folder. I do that as well. Although it is not required, I think it
simplifies things. I also have my image files in the same folder with these.<br>
<br>
By the way, some line spaces came out in the data structure below in my
previous message. I'm not sure why that happened, but I did not intend to put
those in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color="#002060" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060'>Crockett<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:14.0pt;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Wayne Leman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, March 28, 2009
2:01 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Lexicog] problem with
lexique pro<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>wav files have always worked perfectly for me in Lex. Pro. I always
simplify things by having my lexical and audio files in the same folder. Maybe
it's not needed, but it doesn't hurt either.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Wayne</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I think
this ended up being a strange glitch in the Lexique program. When I converted
all of my files to mp3, they magically began working. I don't understand why
the wav files wouldn't work. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks for the suggestions on the structure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Naomi<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Mar 27, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Crockett wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'><br>
Naomi,</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>I think the \sf line is too far from the word
it refers to. Why don't you try something like this:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\lx napaisi</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\sf napaisi.wav<br>
\ps ADV<br>
\ge later on, after while<br>
\xv example<br>
\xe</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\sfx napaisi_examplesentence.wav<br>
\id 11719<br>
\bb WSdict02.txt<br>
\dt 26/Mar/2009<br>
\pc c:\Lexiquedata\napaisi_11719.jpeg<br>
\ff c:\Lexiquedata\napaisi_11719.wav<br>
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<br>
</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>I do not think you are using the \ff field
correctly. That does not seem to be for a sound file (see<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.lexiquep"><font
size=1 color="#1e66ae" face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1E66AE'>http://www.lexiquep</span></font></a>ro.com/faq.htm#sound1).
And which line does it refer to? I'm guessing \id, but what is that for? It
doesn't look like a standard field marker name.</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>It also makes me nervous that you have such a
long file name for the example sentence sound. If that sound file doesn't work,
then the long name could be a problem. I suggest making it simpler –
something like napaisi-xv1.wav.</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>I'm guessing you don't have a text file open up
with the \bb line. That is only for reference.</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>By the way, the \ge should not really be
structured the way you have it, but I guess it depends on what your database
program is. I'm guessing it is Toolbox. I suggest this:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\ge later<br>
\re later on ; after a while<br>
\de later on, after a while<br>
<br>
<br>
</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>I suggest this for the whole entry:</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\lx napaisi</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\sf napaisi.wav<br>
\ps ADV<br>
\ge later<br>
\re later on ; after a while<br>
\de later on, after a while<br>
\xv example<br>
\xe</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\sfx napaisi-xv1.wav</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>\pc napaisi_11719.jpeg<br>
\bb WSdict02.txt<br>
\dt 26/Mar/2009<br>
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</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>The other entries may have to be structured
like this, too, before you get the sound files to work. I'm guessing that at
least this napaisi one will work even if the others don't.</span></font></b><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=4 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>Crockett</span></font></b><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 color="#1e66ae" face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>From:<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com [<a
href="mailto:lexicograph"><font size=1 color="#1e66ae" face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1E66AE'>mailto:lexicograph</span></font></a>ylist@yahoogroups.com]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>foxman350<br>
Sent:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, March 27, 2009 6:20
PM<br>
To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com<br>
Subject:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Lexicog] problem
with lexique pro</span></font></b><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><b><font size=3 color="#1e66ae" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1E66AE;font-weight:bold'>I'm using Lexique
version 2.8.6.<br>
<br>
Here are 2 records from the database: one with a link to the file in the same
folder, the other with the link to the file in a different folder. All of the
picture files which are linked here work fine, but none of the sound files do.
The sounds open up and play in my media player just fine.<br>
<br>
--Naomi<br>
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\lx kate"<br>
\ps V<br>
\ge sit (down), stay,<br>
\id 10640<br>
\xv example<br>
\xe<br>
\bb WSdict02.txt<br>
\dt 26/Mar/2009<br>
\pc c:\Lexiquedata\kate_10640.jpg<br>
\sf c:\Lexiquedata\kate_10640.wav<br>
\sfx c:\Lexiquedata\kate_examplesentence.wav<br>
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\lx napaisi<br>
\ps ADV<br>
\ge later on, after while<br>
\xv example<br>
\xe<br>
\id 11719<br>
\bb WSdict02.txt<br>
\dt 26/Mar/2009<br>
\pc c:\Lexiquedata\napaisi_11719.jpeg<br>
\sf napaisi.wav<br>
\sfx c:\Lexiquedata\napaisi_examplesentence.wav<br>
\ff c:\Lexiquedata\napaisi_11719.wav<br>
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"Crockett" <asigwan@...> wrote:<br>
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> What version of Lexique Pro do you have? When you double click on a wav
file<br>
> from something like Windows explorer, does some program play that sound<br>
> file? Can you copy one record from the database which has a sound file and<br>
> paste it into your response? Make sure all the fields are displayed -<br>
> especially the field the sound file is associated with.<br>
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naomi.e.fox<br>
> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:59 PM<br>
> To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
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> Subject: Re: [Lexicog] problem with lexique pro<br>
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> They are WAV files. I have entered the name of the file in the field when
I<br>
> tried the direct links (putting the files directly into the same directory<br>
> as the database, for example:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
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> \sf napaisi.wav<br>
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> or the entire file path when I tried the new directory:<br>
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> \sf c:\Lexiquedata\napaisi.wav<br>
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> Neither of these worked.<br>
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> On Mar 27, 2009, at 3:16 AM, Crockett wrote:<br>
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> What kind of sound files are they? Are you entering this data right into<br>
> Lexique Pro or are you importing data from another program? And what
exactly<br>
> have you written into the data for that field? For instance, I have this
for<br>
> sound files:<br>
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> \sf s-abran.mp3<br>
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> These sound files are in the folder where I keep the database file, too.<br>
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> Crockett<br>
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> From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
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> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:54 AM<br>
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> Subject: [Lexicog] problem with lexique pro<br>
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> Hi,<br>
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> I'm having a problem with Lexique Pro and I'm hoping someone on the list
can<br>
> help me or point me to an information source.<br>
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> I'm creating a sample dictionary for a Shoshone tribe who wants to make a<br>
> talking dictionary, I think Lexique is an appropriate tool for them to
use,<br>
> at least for the display. I've created a sample with 5 entries with<br>
> pictures, sound files, and example sentence sound files. Everything is<br>
> working fine except the sound files will not play. I have tried various
file<br>
> paths, including placing the sound file in the same folder as the database<br>
> and using only the filename, and also placing all of the files in a
separate<br>
> folder directly under the c: drive to make the path simple, but neither of<br>
> these caused the sound files to play. However, the pictures (which are in<br>
> the same directory) displayed fine with both of these, so I think the<br>
> problem is not with the file path itself. I really don't know what the<br>
> problem is, so I'd appreciate any ideas.<br>
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> Best,<br>
> Naomi<br>
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> Naomi Fox<br>
> Center for American Indian Languages<br>
> University of Utah<br>
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