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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>I should have mentioned one other thing. I
would recommend that a reference to a domain in an appendix be formatted as
follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>madali Vsta slippery (see 7.2.1.5.1
Sororo)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>If space was at a premium, this could even
be shortened to:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>madali Vsta slippery (7.2.1.5.1)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Users would very quickly get used to seeing
a domain reference at the end of the entry, especially if the appendix were a
large section at the end of the book. The appendix entry might look something
like this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>7.2.1.5.1 Sororo<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>madali, sororo, …<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>In a bilingual dictionary you might want to
also include the gloss:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>7.2.1.5.1 Sororo ‘slip’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>madali ‘slippery’, sororo ‘slip’,
…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:blue'>Ron Moe<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>lengosi<br>
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2:03 PM<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lexicog] lexical
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks for your helpful response, Ron. A lot more than
I bargained on, but it certainly helped lay out the issue(s)! I'm wondering how
to apply it, though ... All I wanted was a utilitarian means of helping the
reader get from A to B; i.e., "I know /sororo/ but what was the word for
'slippery' again?!" Perhaps this has a lot to do with intended audience--I
would expect speakers of the language to know the 'pair' (and not even think
English 'slippery' when associating them)--but language learners / non-language
speaking users would not be expected to know the pair. But in my (limited)
experience, even language speaker are keen to point out related words, and it's
my feeling that this should be reflected somehow in the dictionary.<br>
<br>
At one level, just what /kind/ of relationship the words have is a not as
important as /that/ they are related--to go to the entry for /sororo/ and find
reference to /madali/ (and vice versa) is probably more helpful than not
cross-referencing them at all. But, as you pointed out, determining and
defining the relationship can be tricky, and it should have fairly wide
application to be considered useful. So I'm back to where I started--wanting to
demonstrate the relationship between the words and not quite knowing how to
represent it. I'm aware of your penchant for semantic domains ;-), but even
that has its challenges (at least in a dictionary with 'traditional'
alphabetical layout)--how does the reader connect /sororo/ with semantic
domain: 3.4.5.6 (completely made up) to /madali/ s.d.: 3.4.5.6? S.d. 3.4.5.6 is
probably opaque to most dictionary readers ... Suddenly what I thought was a
simple question has brought me to dictionary design philosophy! :-0<br>
<br>
For now I'll probably make some kind of 'catch-all' lexical relation for fringe
relations like 'slip' / 'slippery'--<wbr>just to link them--and move on.
Perhaps I can come back to this some day when I have more time and energy to
spend on it. :-/<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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