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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>This fall I’m going to <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Uganda</st1:country-region></st1:place>
for three and a half months to attempt(!) to elicit the emic (emic = the way
speakers view things) classification system of the Ik language. It is remote
and for various reasons there has not been a lot of education in the area. So I
am hoping it will be minimally influenced by outside classification systems. One
purpose of this research is to see where the DDP domains do not fit another
language. Eventually I hope to get enough data to start making judgments on
which domains are universal (if any) and how languages vary. My thesis depends
on the assumption that there are semantic universals and universals of human
experience that influence how various languages conceptualize reality and
experience.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>For instance research into color terms
reveals a wide variety of lexemes. But when people are asked to point to a
prototypical ‘red’ or ‘blue’, they frequently point to
the same square on a color chart. English has its prototypical ‘blood red’
‘sky blue’ and ‘leaf green’. This holds true from
individual to individual and from language to language. If a language has one
lexeme that includes ‘blue’ and ‘green’ (what the
researchers label ‘grue’), people will point to two prototypical squares
on the color chart, one the prototypical blue and the other the prototypical
green. Research into the physics of the eye shows that this is actually
determined by the wavelengths of the light that the cones and rods in the eye
can detect. So there is a physiological basis for these lexical universals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>One implication of this is that a
standardized list of domains will be partly applicable to any language. This is
why DDP works well but not perfectly. DDP is somewhat standardized, but in
reality is basically an English list. What we need is a truly standardized list
and an indication of where languages vary. I liken the need to the role of IPA
in phonological study of particular languages. IPA gets us started, but we then
have to do research and analysis to determine how the phonology of our language
works.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Once I’ve done my research in the Ik
language, I will want to describe the process and results. I’m then
hoping other people will do the same sort of research so that we can compare
numerous emic classification systems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Ron Moe<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
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style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Wayne
Leman</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:10
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Lexicog] palm trees</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Greg, if you are attempting to reflect the lexicon of
a language, what is<br>
the purpose of using a semantic taxonomy that does not reflect the lexical<br>
relationships of that language?<br>
<br>
It seems to me that using an "external" taxonomy to aid English
readers<br>
creates a distorted view of the lexical relations within the language, which<br>
includes taxonomic relationships.<br>
<br>
By the way, it is not necessary to have superordinate category<br>
classification words in order for a people to have the concept of a semantic<br>
grouping, although it definitely helps. Not every concept that people have<br>
is lexicalized, including in English.<br>
<br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Wayne</st1:place></st1:City><br>
-----<br>
Ninilchik Russian dictionary online:<br>
<a href="http://ninilchik.noadsfree.com">http://ninilchik.<wbr>noadsfree.<wbr>com</a><br>
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<br>
Hi Ron,<br>
<br>
I was not thinking of using a vernacular classification because the<br>
vernacular I am studying actually seems to have few classification words of<br>
levels that I can find. Also, I want my semantic domain list to reflect a<br>
likely folk classification of English readers because it will mostly be<br>
English readers who access the (English) sematic domain list. I know you do<br>
not want an English folk classification. Sorry.<br>
<br>
<snip><br>
<br>
Regards, Greg<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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