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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Wayne,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am sorry if my reply seems inane, but one
purpose of a semantic taxonomy is to produce a list of words grouped by
semantic domain, to help find similar words. If the reader wants to explore the
plant names of a vernacular, it is useful to have the plant names grouped in a
list, and to have the list divided into various sub-groupings.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Having read the LDL today, it seems there are at
least three possible ways of ordering the semantic domain list. (1) There may be
a universal order, which would reflect a kind of average of individual
ethno-taxonomic systems. This has the advantage of being intuitive and easily
used by everyone. (2) You could use an English ethno-taxonomy, which has
the benefit of being intuitive and easily used by an English reader. (3) You
could use the ethno-taxonomy of the vernacular language, which has the advantage
of being a insightful window on the vernacular language and thought system, but
the disadvantage of possibly being obscure to an outsider. I was wondering which
of the three options the DDP taxonomy was aiming at, and whether the DDP
taxonomy needs to be tweaked for each language, or deliberately kept
unchanged.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have just learned that in the Austronesian
language I work with, coconut palms, sago palms, pandanus trees and
betelnut palms are all not considered 'trees'. There is no superordinate term to
refer to them, as you rightly suggested might be the case.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards, Greg</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 20, 2009 2:09
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Lexicog] palm trees</DIV>
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<P>Greg, if you are attempting to reflect the lexicon of a language, what
is<BR>the purpose of using a semantic taxonomy that does not reflect the
lexical<BR>relationships of that language?<BR><BR>It seems to me that using an
"external" taxonomy to aid English readers<BR>creates a distorted view of the
lexical relations within the language, which<BR>includes taxonomic
relationships.<BR><BR>By the way, it is not necessary to have superordinate
category<BR>classification words in order for a people to have the concept of
a semantic<BR>grouping, although it definitely helps. Not every concept that
people have<BR>is lexicalized, including in
English.<BR><BR>Wayne<BR>-----<BR>Ninilchik Russian dictionary online:<BR><A
href="http://ninilchik.noadsfree.com">http://ninilchik.<WBR>noadsfree.<WBR>com</A><BR><BR>--------<BR><BR>Hi
Ron,<BR><BR>I was not thinking of using a vernacular classification because
the<BR>vernacular I am studying actually seems to have few classification
words of<BR>levels that I can find. Also, I want my semantic domain list to
reflect a<BR>likely folk classification of English readers because it will
mostly be<BR>English readers who access the (English) sematic domain list. I
know you do<BR>not want an English folk classification.
Sorry.<BR><BR><snip><BR><BR>Regards, Greg<BR><BR></P></DIV><!--End group email -->
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