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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Dick,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>This is good, but I’ve got two
questions. (1) Did this exercise just deal with the physical universe? (2) Was
there any indication that the lexicon was not hierarchically organized? Put
another way, could each category be subdivided into smaller and smaller
categories? (I think of a hierarchy as being essentially two dimensional.) Or
was there evidence that it was more like a multi-dimensional network?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>If it is the latter, then I think the only
way to elicit an emic network is to start with a word (it can be any word) and
let the speakers gather all the words related to it. One word in a lexical set
(or domain) will lead to another which suggests another group of words. One of
those suggests another group. Gradually we will collect more and more domains. Some
domains will be more closely related than others. So even the domains will fall
into groups. In this way we could gradually grow the network. I’ve found
that the DDP hierarchy cannot capture this network of domains. I would need to
create lots of cross-references between domains. I don’t know how to
display this network. In fact I don’t have a good metaphor to describe
it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>If anyone wants to play around with their
emic domains, try doing this as an exercise. It is sort of like the free
association tests that psychologists like: “I’ll say a word, and
you tell me the first word that comes to mind.” Only in this case the
linguist says, “I’ll say a word, and you tell me all the other words
that come to mind when you think of that word.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Ron Moe<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>dick_watson@sil.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:22
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Lexicog] palm trees</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:sans-serif'>Ron,</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Many
years ago when we were building lexicon and studying ethnology of the Pacoh in
VN, I set a stack of paper in front of my language associate and asked him to
start the first sheet by dividing the universe into parts, then dividing those
parts into parts until he had lists of fillers of all the parts. He took
to the task with diligence and before long had a pile of sheets filled up. We
didn't keep up the exercise for very long because we had other things to move
onto that we thought were more important, but I've often wished we could have
had him and others spend more time on those lists, thinking of areas that had
been missed and more terms that needed splitting. We had a lot of
compounds, but I can see now that to be more complete we would probably need to
have more phrases. I believe his universe started with a compound of
earth and sky and he spent most of his time dividing the earth and its
contents, but I'm pretty sure there was one page of parts of the sky too. He
had one year of Vietnamese schooling, but I think his divisions were pretty
ethnocentric. As you said, I too was interested to see how many of his
divisions were the same as mine, but occasionally surprised by the differences.</span></font>
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<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Dick</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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