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<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Mike Maxwell wrote:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<span><div><div><div>On 1/4/2012 12:06 PM, langwijmijij wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>I tried Fieldworks, but life is too short to wait more than 5 seconds</div><div>for each parse (with an average of 5+ morphemes per verb, I can</div><div>interlinearise by hand at more than double that speed). The parser is</div><div>incredibly slow, even on a recent machine with ample memory.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Odd, I haven't heard people complain about FLEx being slow lately. </div><div>Which version of FLEx were you using, and which parser (XAmple or Hermit </div><div>Crab)?</div></div></div></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can't remember, sorry. But it wasn't just the parser, it was everything about the program, switching windows, etc. There was a long discussion on the rnld email list about this a few months ago, with people saying things like "it's ok, but I have to close all other programs to run it and I have to shut down the program and restart every 20 mins".</div><div> </div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span><div><div><div><br></div><div> > And it still had most of the difficulties that toolbox</div><div> > has for this language (lenition causing many homophonous forms,</div><div> > significant variation in affix forms which are ameliorated by word</div><div> > formulas but not solved, etc).</div><div><br></div><div>I assume the homophonous forms can be disambiguated by part of speech of </div><div>the base, or by position wrt the inflectional affix template, right?</div></div></div></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Many, yes, but not always. For example, there are two tense suffixes, one of which is -an and the other of which is -na, and both can be realised as -n in certain circumstances. They are also immediately adjacent to one another.</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span><div><div><div> </div><div>(And maybe some by their morphosyntactic properties, e.g. incompatible </div><div>features where you have multiple exponence.) Did you assign those </div><div>properties to the affixes? (FLEx of course does not use word formulas, </div><div>although the notion of an affix template is conceptually similar.)</div></div></div></span></div></blockquote><div>I started doing so but given how slow the rest of the program was being, it didn't seem worth it to pursue it. </div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span><div><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>It also crashed frequently (took the best part of a day just to</div><div>import the toolbox lexicon).</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The difficulty in importing Toolbox lexicons has traditionally (I</div><div>haven't tried it lately) been that the Toolbox lexicons have too many</div><div>errors (missing fields, fields which are ordered wrong, data in the </div><div>wrong field, and so forth). I wouldn't be surprised if it took awhile </div><div>to straighten those things out. Did you use the "Import Wizard" </div><div>described here:</div><div> <a href="http://fieldworks.sil.org/flex/lexicon/import-export/">http://fieldworks.sil.org/flex/lexicon/import-export/</a></div></div></div></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes. This was a stripped-down lexicon of just headwords, parts of speech, and glosses.</div><div><br></div><div>Claire</div><div> </div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span><div><div><div>-- </div><div> Mike Maxwell</div><div> <a href="mailto:maxwell@umiacs.umd.edu">maxwell@umiacs.umd.edu</a></div><div> "My definition of an interesting universe is</div><div> one that has the capacity to study itself."</div><div> --Stephen Eastmond</div></div></div></span>
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