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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I’ve never seen such an entry. I’ve had to
create an entry for a diacritic, but fortunately I could use a naturally
occurring word (consisting of a single letter with diacritic) as a citation
form. But that’s different.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>If the dictionary is for linguists, the
null symbol </span></font><font color=blue face="Doulos SIL"><span
style='font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:blue'>∅ </span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>would work fine. If it is for non-linguists, I’m not so
sure. The only other option I can think of is to give a description in
parentheses:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>(third singular pronoun)</span></font></b><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'> <i><span style='font-style:italic'>pro</span></i>.
He/she; sometimes the third singular pronoun is not expressed by any word…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Here are a few considerations that I can
think of: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>1) Where will it alphabetize? Will it need
a new alphabetic section? Will the software handle it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>2) Will any user ever know to look for it
or will it only ever be found by accident?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>3) Will the user understand the article as
it is presented? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>4) If the users aren’t linguists, will they
understand the null symbol or a description such as “null morpheme” or “zero
morpheme”?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>5) Are there other null morphemes that also
need to be described? If so, what will the citation form look like (</span></font><font
color=blue face="Doulos SIL"><span style='font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:blue'>∅²</span></font><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'>)? If you want a cross-reference, what will
it look like (see </span></font><font color=blue face="Doulos SIL"><span
style='font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:blue'>∅²</span></font><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>)? (Sounds like a chemical formula for carbon dioxide.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I would be tempted to omit the dictionary
article and put the discussion in a grammar sketch where I had the space to
adequately explain it, for instance by including a pronoun chart to show the
system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Ron Moe<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
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AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lexicog] entry
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>That's an interesting question. Off the top of my
head, perhaps the null symbol: </span></font><font face="MS Mincho"><span
style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>∅</span></font> (U+2205)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Lou Hohulin <<a
href="mailto:lou_hohulin@sil.org" target="_blank">lou_hohulin@sil.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Have any of you on this list created an entry form for a null/zero morpheme? If
so, what did you use as a canonical form?<br>
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The third person, singular pronoun in Tuwali Ifugao clearly functions as a
pronoun but has no evident form. The 'reference' of the zero pronoun can be
cross-referenced by affixes, have either a subject or object grammatical
relation with the verb and is in contrast to the use of other third person,
singular pronouns. This information should be put within an entry, along with
illustrative sentences so who on this list can give me suggestions as to what
would be a logical, practical entry form.<br>
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Lou Hohulin<br>
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