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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=4>Printed or On-Line Dictionaries. I still
prefer Print, although I use occassionally On-Line.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=david.joffe@tshwanedje.com href="mailto:david.joffe@tshwanedje.com">David
Joffe</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ettiew@gmail.com
href="mailto:ettiew@gmail.com">ettiew@gmail.com</A> ; <A title=volker@nalik.org
href="mailto:volker@nalik.org">volker@nalik.org</A> ; <A
title=gillesmaurice.deschryver@UGent.be
href="mailto:gillesmaurice.deschryver@UGent.be">gillesmaurice.deschryver@UGent.be</A>
; <A title=mmasibidisetaka@yahoo.com
href="mailto:mmasibidisetaka@yahoo.com">mmasibidisetaka@yahoo.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=Lexicophile@aol.com
href="mailto:Lexicophile@aol.com>"><Lexicophile@aol.com></A> ; <A
title=euralex@freelists.org
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Lexicog] Re: [asialex] Re: [afrilex] Re: Re: [euralex] Re:
[DSNA] RE: End of print dictionaries at Macmillan</DIV></DIV>
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<P>On 7 Nov 2012 at 5:10, <A
href="mailto:mmasibidisetaka@yahoo.com">mmasibidisetaka@yahoo.com</A>
wrote:<BR><BR>> This is a very interesting debate I must say, however the
first thing<BR>> that we need to establish is a dictionary culture which I
believe is<BR>> not strong enough (especially in South Africa)before we
could<BR>> celebrate the end of print dictionaries and the beginning of a new
era<BR>> of online dictionaries. Secondly we need to consider the dynamics
of<BR>> the widening gap between those who have and those who don't, because
a<BR>> very small percentage of people have access to computers.<BR><BR>Hmm,
a little perspective here perhaps: Smartphones *are* computers, <BR>and the
*cheapest* smartphone is a FAR more powerful computer than <BR>the computer I
first learned to program on. I recently took an <BR>R80/month contract here
(approx $10/month), and for that I have a <BR>portable computer/cellphone in
hand that compares as follows to the <BR>computer I learned to program
on:<BR><BR>- 832MHz process vs 2 MHz processor<BR>- Size:portable vs Size: Large
heavy desktop<BR>- Screen: 240x320 256K colors vs screen: 320x200 16 colors<BR>-
Internet vs: No Internet<BR>- Advanced HTML5 Web browser with built-in
JavaScript programming <BR>language, vs: No Web browser<BR>- 3GB storage vs:
20MB storage<BR>- Built-in camera vs: No built-in camera<BR><BR>Yes, the poorest
can't afford R80/month, but surely even someone of <BR>relatively modest income
could afford that? Also, we're only at the <BR>start of the smartphone trend,
they are still dramatically falling <BR>in price and becoming more
commonplace/popular (the main impediment <BR>is probably the mess that is the
patent system), so I must admit I <BR>don't think the depiction of the majority
lacking access is entirely <BR>fair, at least regarding South Africa, Internet
coverage via the <BR>mobile networks reaches over 90% of the population already,
and with <BR>several new African under-ocean fiber cable projects and massive
<BR>investments in terrestrial bandwidth infrastructure prices are still
<BR>falling ... imagine what it will be like in just another 10 years.
<BR>(Regarding the gap between haves and have-nots, global income <BR>inequality
has also actually been improving more or less <BR>consistently for about five
decades now, even though it might not <BR>always feel like it and is 'contrary
to popular belief'.)<BR><BR>That said, I hope paper dictionaries never go away
entirely. I find <BR>myself approaching this question from the perspective of a
new <BR>parent, asking myself 'would I prefer my child[ren] growing up in a
<BR>household with paper dictionaries around', and the answer is an <BR>absolute
'yes' ... I remember also as a child enjoying just browsing <BR>through
dictionaries just for interest, and while you could possibly <BR>replicate this
to some extent in software, I'm not sure you can ever <BR>do so entirely. But,
this may also be partially nostalgia, and <BR>today's generation grow up in an
environment of 'continual <BR>technological distraction' so they might not find
<BR>dictionary-browsing as interesting.<BR><BR>Also, myself, I rarely consult
paper dictionaries nowadays, and if <BR>so, it's usually for dictionaries that I
don't have in <BR>online/electronic format.<BR><BR>- David<BR><BR></P></DIV><!-- end group email -->
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