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<div><div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">About the agency, you can visit http://pusatbahasa.kemdiknas.go.id/lamanbahasa/, but I'm afraid it's only in Indonesian, there's no English version.<br>The most common way in ordering entries is based on the stem and then all derivatives as subentries. Actually, it depends on your target users. I found an Indonesian learner's dictionary with fully alphabetically order, but in each such entry there's a cross reference to the stem.<br>Good luck with your project.<br><br>Best wishes,<br>Dora Amalia<br></div></div><hr><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">tornedalen</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">5/10/2013 5:37 PM</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Re: [Lexicog] Public funding for national dictionary projects?</span><br><br>
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<p><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>Can you include a link to any website with a detailed information about this agency to help our Welsh colleagues?</span></div><div style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'><span>Ah, I am studying Malay / Indonesian and intend to write a bilingual Malay / Indonesian - Spanish dictionary in a coverage similar to Echols-Shadily / Labrousse / Teeuw / Krause / Compact by Davidsen in Tuttle and with a special interest in words from business and law usually neglected in general dictionaries but you are sure to find in everyday file, for instance, when filling a form </span></div><div style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'>Which is the most useful way of ordering entries</div><div style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'>- alphabetical order</div><div style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'>- stem order and then all the derivatives?</div><div style='color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;'><br></div><div><br></div> <div style='font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 12pt;'> <div style='font-family: "times new roman", "new york", times, serif; font-size: 12pt;'> <div dir="ltr"> <hr SIZE="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">De:</span></b> Dora
Amalia <yayak_amalia@yahoo.co.id><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Para:</span></b> "lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com" <lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado:</span></b> Sábado 5 de octubre de 2013 3:18<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Asunto:</span></b> RE: [Lexicog] Public funding for national dictionary projects?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1734090536">
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<div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Dear Andrew,<br>In Indonesia we have Kamus Besar Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian Big Monolingual Dictionary) compiled by Language Agency, a governmental body of Ministry of Education and Culture since 1988. Besides, we also have thesaurus, learner's dictionary, and encyclopedia fully funded by the ministry.<br>Best wishes,<br>Dora Amalia<br></div></div><hr><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Andrew Hawke</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">4/10/2013 11:14 PM</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Cc: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Andrew.Hawke@gmail.com</span><br><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">[Lexicog] Public funding for national dictionary projects?</span><br><br>
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<div>Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
As you may be aware, the Higher Education Funding Council for Wales <br>
has been grant-aiding Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru with a ring-fenced <br>
annual grant. This has reduced in recent years (partly because of the <br>
Dictionary's two former Co-Editors were presented in the last <br>
Research Assessment Exercise, leading to "double funding", which was <br>
then clawed back). The Dictionary generates very little income from <br>
sales - just about enough to meet the production costs. The remainder <br>
of the Dictionary's costs are met by the University of Wales (approx. <br>
60%), but the University is being run down in the approach to the <br>
intended merger with University of Wales: Trinity Saint David in 2017 or 2018.<br>
<br>
Last year HEFCW announced that it intended to end its ring-fenced <br>
grant to the Dictionary because of financial exigencies and changed <br>
priorities. Consequently, we expect to lose at least 25% of our <br>
funding from August 2014.<br>
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We have appealed to HEFCW to change its decision, pointing out that <br>
many large national historical dictionary projects around the world <br>
receive support from the public purse, in one way or another. HEFCW <br>
has asked us to substantiate this statement to aid its consideration <br>
of our case.<br>
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We are therefore seeking to compile a list of major projects that <br>
receive funding from public sources (whether from a direct grant, or <br>
from funding via a university, or a government-funded learned <br>
society, or a quango such as a language board). The details HEFCW <br>
requires are the the name of dictionary or project, the source of the <br>
government funding and the approximate annual amount granted. (I <br>
appreciate that the amount of the annual grant may be difficult to obtain.)<br>
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If there is any information which you can supply in your particular <br>
area of interest, I would be most grateful. I would also be grateful <br>
for any pointers to further possible sources of information to help <br>
us make our case.<br>
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With thanks in anticipation,<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Andrew<br>
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Andrew Hawke | Golygydd Rheolaethol | Geiriadur Prifysgol Cymru, <br>
Canolfan Uwchefrydiau Cymreig a Cheltaidd Prifysgol Cymru, Llyfrgell <br>
Genedlaethol Cymru, Aberystwyth, SY23 3HH<br>
Andrew Hawke | Managing Editor| University of Wales Dictionary of the <br>
Welsh Language, University of Wales Centre for Advanced Welsh & <br>
Celtic Studies, National Library of Wales, Aberystwyth, SY23 3HH, UK<br>
ff./tel. +44 (0)1970 631012 | ffacs/fax: +44 (0)1970 631039 | <br>
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Nid yw'r neges hon o angenrheidrwydd yn adlewyrchu barn Prifysgol <br>
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University of Wales <br>
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