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<div>Dear Bill,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you so much. This is along the lines of what we were looking for. Thanks for taking the time to explain those, as well. </div><div><br></div><div>'Ahotk</div><div>Natalie </div><div><br>On Apr 26, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Bill Poser <<a href="mailto:billposer2@gmail.com">billposer2@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p></p><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Here are a few suggestions for fields to include:<br></div>(a) meaning note - you may want your English gloss to be brief, e.g. so that it can be used as a headword in a printed dictionary or so that it will fit in a fixed position in an on-line one, or so that it can easily be used for lookup in the English->Mojave direction. You can use the meaning note field to expand on the meaning of the word.<br>
<br></div>(b) scientific name - for living things. Anyone doing biological work will appreciate this. One virtue of the scientific name is that many organisms have multiple English names and that the same name may refer to different species in different areas, or when used by lay people and biologists. <br>
<br></div>(c) synonyms<br><br></div>(d) closely related words with distinct meanings (e.g. in my dictionaries "waterfall with turbulent flow" contains a cross-reference to "waterfall with laminar flow".)<br>
<br></div>(e) register - is the word vulgar, no longer in use, old-fashioned, high-falutin, slang, etc.<br><br></div>(f) semantic field - is the word the name of a bird, a fish, an animal, a tool, a body part, a kinship term, something to do with religion, education, hunting, etc. This will come in handy if you want to generate a topical index, or if, in your electronic dictionary, you want the user who has looked up a word to be able to explore by moving on to other words in the same category.<br>
<br></div>(g) grammatical categories such as tense, mood, aspect, and negation - these are useful if you are listing inflected forms separately. You can use this information to search for examples of a particular category, e.g. all the future negative verb forms. It also relieves you of the need to attempt to convey in the English gloss grammatical information that doesn't have any simple English equivalent (e.g. an imperfective/perfective distinction).<br>
<br></div>(h) grammar notes - this is a place in which you can explain what kind of complements a verb takes and things like that.<br><br></div>(i) inflected forms - if you are treating inflected forms of a certain category together, it may still be useful to record individual inflected forms as part of the entry. For example, you might want to have fields for the various possessed forms of nouns, or plurals, or vocatives if your language has such things, especially when they are irregular.<br>
<br></div>(j) data sources - where does the information come from? In addition to the names of speakers who provided the information, you may have information that comes from other dictionaries or from texts produced by a group or of anonymous authorship.<br>
<br></div>(k) etymology - where does the word come from?<br><br></div>(l) inverse header - depending on how you are doing things, it can be useful to include in an entry the headword or headwords under which you would want to find the entry when going from, e.g., English to Mojave. <br>
<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Richard Gravina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Richard-Sue_Gravina@sil.org" target="_blank">Richard-Sue_Gravina@sil.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Have you also looked at programs such as Fieldworks and WeSay? Lexique Pro
is good for displaying dictionaries, but for building a dictionary these other
programs are better.</div>
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<div>When it comes to deciding which components to include, it would be best to
get the advice of a linguist who is familiar with your language, or other
related languages. There may be grammatical properties that it is important to
include, but those will be specific to the language. </div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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<div>Richard</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="benjaminbarrett85@gmail.com" href="mailto:benjaminbarrett85@gmail.com" target="_blank">Benjamin Barrett</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 25, 2014 9:26 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">lexicographylist@yahoogroups.com</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lexicog] Lexique Pro dictionary
components</div></div></div>
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<p>I cannot help with Lexique, but I have been working on a pilot project for
Lushootseed using the Wiki Foundation (Wikipedia, Wiktionary, etc.) software,
which is free, flexible and easily accessible. (Configuration is not easy as the
instructions that are available can be difficult to follow.)
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<div>You can see my beta project at:<br>
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<div><a href="http://lushootseed.langrev.com/wiktionary/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://lushootseed.langrev.com/wiktionary/Main_Page</a></div>
<div><a href="http://lushootseed.langrev.com/wiktionary/sqig%CA%B7%C9%99c" target="_blank">http://lushootseed.langrev.com/wiktionary/sqig%CA%B7%C9%99c</a><br>
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<div>HTH</div>
<div>Ben Barrett</div>
<div>La Conner, WA</div>
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<div>Learn Ainu! <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/aynuitak1/videos" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/site/aynuitak1/videos</a><br>
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<div>On Apr 25, 2014, at 7:36 AM, <a href="mailto:nataliegdiaz@gmail.com" target="_blank">nataliegdiaz@gmail.com</a> wrote:</div><br>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);">Hello.</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);"> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);">I am
a new member to the group, and my Elders and I are using Lexique Pro to build
our heritage language dictionary. I would like to get input as to which
components of word meanings you believe are most important to include when
building a dictionary. Right now, we have only the basics, such as the english
gloss, the definition, part of speech, and we also have multiple audio and
video files that allow the word to be heard in a sentence or within a story or
song. </div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);">Our
dictionary is intended for our community, as a! learning tool, and as a tool
that can help support a language curriculum in the school.</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);"> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);">But
we want to make it as dynamic and helpful as possible, in addition, we hope
that it can be helpful to any of our learners who might enter into the
linguistic field in the future.</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);"> </div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);">As
well, any suggestions or tips you might have for working with Lexique will be
appreciated and helpful.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);">'Ahotk</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:calibri;COLOR:rgb(34,34,34);">Natalie</div>
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