[Fwd: Re : attributive and predicative adjectives]

ld4391 at albany.edu ld4391 at albany.edu
Fri Jul 17 09:32:42 UTC 2009


Dear Steve,

Why not use a single lexical entry for both uses of the adjective? The
entry would contain an entry for the attributive and an entry for the
predicative use. It requires more input than this, of course, on the
attributive but ...:

 red Adj { (^Pred)    = 'red <Subj>'
         (^Subj Gen)  = F
         (^Subj Num)  = Pl
                    |
         (^Pred)      = 'red' }


One could also consider predicate modification (Kaplan ??), or else,
subsumption (see Dalrymple 2001).
Best to check out agreement in French in The Grammer Writer's Cookbook

Regards,
Lach Duncan,
UAlbany










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Subject: Re : attributive and predicative adjectives
From:    "Sombat Khruathong" <lli_unp at yahoo.fr>
Date:    Wed, July 15, 2009 6:27 pm
To:      LFG at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
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Dear Steve,

I think that it could be captured by a specific description on each
adjective. As a French teacher, I have to count for checking the gender of
all nouns and pronouns when an adjective is predicative.

SK


 Prof.Associé Sombat KHRUATHONG (Ph.D.)
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Université Naresuan 65000, Thaïlande
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--- En date de : Lun 13.7.09, Stephen Wechsler <wechsler at mail.utexas.edu>
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De: Stephen Wechsler <wechsler at mail.utexas.edu>
Objet: attributive and predicative adjectives
À: LFG at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Date: Lundi 13 Juillet 2009, 23h33


Dear Colleagues,

I would be grateful for references to any HPSG or LFG work (or in other
frameworks, for that matter) on the topic of relating attributive
adjectives (the red house) to predicate adjectives (The house is red.).

I'm interested in how this should be captured in a lexicalist grammar,
e.g. a lexical rule deriving one from the other (in which case, which one
is basic?), or lexical inheritance, templates, etc.   Also, that account
should allow for the simple fact that in languages with adjective
agreement, the agreement features that apply to the modifiee of the
attributive, normally apply to the subject of the predicative.  E.g. if
'house' is feminine then 'red' would take feminine form whether
attributive (the red house) or predicate (The house is red.)

Thanks in advance.

--Steve





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