<BODY><P>Just another thought on students who study Latin.</P>
<P>I did an evaluation of a foreign language high school program in New Jersey a few years ago. The program offered German, French, Spanish, and Latin.</P>
<P>The smallest classes with the brightest students and best teachers were the Latin classes. The language is percevied as challenging and intellectual by parents and students. This seems to suggest the possibility of a selection bias in the grouping.</P>
<P>Clearly the study of any language is potentially enriching, and studying a second language with cognates will further support L1 literacy. </P>
<P>Miriam<BR><BR>Miriam Eisenstein Ebsworth, Ph.D. <BR><MEE1@nyu.edu> <BR>Director of Doctoral Programs in Multilingual Multicultural Studies <BR>New York University</P>
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<P></P><B>From</B>: "Kephart, Ronald" <rkephart@unf.edu>
<P></P><B>Date</B>: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:53 am
<P></P><B>Subject</B>: Re: Proposed charter schools include all-boys Latin prep
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<P></P>> > >From the Philadelphia Enquirer, Thu, Oct. 13, 2005 <BR>> > <BR>> >"When you look at SAT scores, the kids who take Latin, as a <BR>> group, <BR>> >score the highest," Hardy said. "Latin puts an academic tone on <BR>> the <BR>> >school that gets people serious from when they come in the door." <BR>> <BR>> Well, I don't have anything against Latin, but I bet a program <BR>> centered on the rigorous teaching of any language would accomplish <BR>> similar results. <BR>> <BR>> > He said Latin also helps students with English grammar... <BR>> <BR>> The study of any language would help here, seems to me, because <BR>> what <BR>> we're looking for is the metalinguistic toolkit that enables <BR>> students <BR>> to reflect back on English. <BR>> <BR>> >...and vocabulary... <BR>> <BR>> OK. This is probably true, because the prestige vocabulary, the <BR>> vocabulary likely to be te!
sted on SAT, is largely Latinate. The <BR>> SATs <BR>> represent a sort of ongoing colonization of the mind; does the <BR>> year <BR>> 1066 mean anything? (How many native Anglo-Saxon words are <BR>> specifically tested for on the SAT, I wonder?) <BR>> <BR>> >...and provides a pathway for learning other languages. "Latin is <BR>> >something that takes some effort to master," he said. "If you can <BR>> >get kids to fight the fight to master it, they won't be afraid to <BR>> do <BR>> >anything." <BR>> <BR>> Any language well-taught takes "some effort to master." The <BR>> prestige <BR>> Latin holds in this regard is, in my view, still more <BR>> mind-colonization. Again, recall 1066 and then think of the folk <BR>> notion of French being harder to learn than Spanish. <BR>> <BR>> Anyway, as I tell my linguistics students, there's nothing special <BR>> about Latin that isn't true of every other human langua!
ge.* <BR>> <BR>> Ron <BR>> <BR>> *No Latin teachers were h
armed in the writing of this email. <BR>> <BR>> </BODY>