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Hal -- I couldn't agree more with Christina -- the listserve is an
invaluable and much appreciated resource and I very much hope you can
keep it going. I also agree that we are, thankfully, a very polite and
civil list. As for the database you mention, I have never consulted it
and if it is too troublesome to maintain it, perhaps you needn't. <br>
all very best,<br>
Nancy<br>
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Christina Paulston wrote:
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cite="mid:%3CE9466971-7DC2-407D-98F1-4948F812BCD3@pitt.edu%3E"
type="cite">Dear Harold,
<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>You
perform an invaluable service to all of us interested in these issues
- do please continue. And my students are all addicts as of course am
I . Que sigue no mas, as any Peruvian would tell you. Fortsätt - as a
Swede more laconically would say. Don't you dare quit - with love,
Christina<br>
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<div>On Feb 8, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Harold Schiffman wrote:</div>
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<div>Dear Members, </div>
<div> </div>
<div>If you have tried in recent weeks to log on to our website, or
to make a request to become a member, or to have your membership
cancelled, you will have noticed some problems. The reason for these
problems is that the server that we have been using for the last 6 or 7
years, "ccat" (webadress <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/plc/clpp">http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/plc/clpp</a>)
has been having problems that have led the tech support people here to
make the decision to move as many applications away from it and
eventually replace it with other servers. Some time ago, because of
the inability of ccat to handle spam, I began sending messages via
gmail, and all messages that come through ccat are forwarded to me at
gmail (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hfsclpp@gmail.com">hfsclpp@gmail.com</a>)
which can manage spam much more efficiently. (Otherwise I was getting
250 or more spam messages per day.) </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I met with the tech support person yesterday and we have
agreed to the following: </div>
<ul>
<li>From now on, all requests to add or remove memberships should
be directed to me personally at either <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:haroldfs@ccat.sas.upenn.edu">haroldfs@ccat.sas.upenn.edu</a>
or <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hfsclpp@gmail.com">hfsclpp@gmail.com</a>
You will no longer be able to access the on-line forms to do this.</li>
<li>The database we have had on-line, which listed the personal
information people filled out when they became members, and which was
visible to anyone in the world who wanted to see it, is deemed too
vulnerable and too sensitive to leave in that state.</li>
<li>That membership database, with over 400 entries, will be
disabled, and we will try to find a new "home" for it. I do not at
this point know where it could be hosted that would guarantee privacy
for the information, so I will have to continue to explore ways to keep
it viable.</li>
<li>Please let me know if you personally wish this database to be
somehow available, somewhere, i.e. I need to know the following:</li>
<ul>
<li>Have you ever consulted it?</li>
<li>Do you find it useful?</li>
<li>Do you think it has ever been compromised? </li>
</ul>
<li>Only once in our history has one user become unpleasant and
uncivil in messages to others, and I had to ban him from membership.
Since then, there have been no problems that I know of. </li>
<li>The general webpage with information about the Consortium for
Language Policy and Planning, at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/plc/clpp">http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/plc/clpp</a>
<strong>but not the membership page</strong> accessible by
clicking on "Members" will continue to be available.</li>
</ul>
<div>Sincerely,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Hal Schiffman</div>
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<div>N.b.: Listing on the lgpolicy-list is merely intended as a
service to its members </div>
<div>and implies neither approval, confirmation nor agreement by
the owner or sponsor of </div>
<div>the list as to the veracity of a message's contents. Members
who disagree with a </div>
<div>message are encouraged to post a rebuttal. (H. Schiffman,
Moderator) </div>
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