Since it depends so completely on who is talking, under what
circumstances, I wonder what kinds of studies could be devised to
evaluate peoples' reactions to "a language." When referring to impressions gleaned from audible language "a language" is a series of individuals speaking in different contexts, and the
range of beauty and richness would be extremely wide.<br><br>I lived in Greece for 11 years, and I would challenge the author to speak so glowingly of the tone of mothers screeching "Mi lerothis," (don't get dirty), at their kids during a Sunday at the beach. <br>
<br>In Israel the Arabic I heard on the streets was not attractive to my ear, to say the least, rough and guttural. Then one night I heard Arabic poetry being read on the radio. Talk about rich! It could hardly be identified as the same language.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Miriam E Ebsworth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mee1@nyu.edu">mee1@nyu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear AJS,<br>
<br>
As I understand it the "psychotypology of languages" refers to inferred relationships among languages by often naive individuals. I can see the intersection with folk linguistics as such perceptions are based on intuition rather than synchronic and diachronic analysis.<br>
<br>
In a world where decisions regarding language learning are often made by politicians rather than scientists, this is an important discussion.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Miriam<br>
<br>
Miriam Eisenstein Ebsworth, Ph.D.<br>
<<a href="mailto:MEE1@nyu.edu">MEE1@nyu.edu</a>><br>
Director of Doctoral Programs in Multilingual Multicultural Studies<br>
New York University,635 East Building<br>
239 Greene St., New York, NY 10003<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Al Haraka <<a href="mailto:alharaka@gmail.com">alharaka@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:45 am<br>
Subject: Re: Sounds like Greek to me<br>
To: <a href="mailto:lgpolicy-list@ccat.sas.upenn.edu">lgpolicy-list@ccat.sas.upenn.edu</a><br>
<br>
<br>
> Damien and Robert,<br>
><br>
> I am by no means an expert, with my last linguistics courses over a<br>
> year<br>
> ago.<br>
><br>
> Nonetheless, I thought professors in sociolinguistics referred to<br>
> this<br>
> subset as "linguistic topology." I am not sure if it is an<br>
> independent<br>
> field of study or a hobby among really esoteric linguists. However,<br>
> I<br>
> took a class with Arabic professors on Contrastive (Linguistic)<br>
> Analysis<br>
> (or whatever fancy name they had doctored), and the discussion of<br>
> people's impressions on different dialects, the difficulty in<br>
> learning<br>
> other languages, was studied under those respective headings.<br>
><br>
> I am not sure that helps. Someone can correct me if they wish.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> _AJS<br>
><br>
> Damien Hall wrote:<br>
> > Robert asked about linguists' work on folk perceptions of foreign<br>
> > languages. Miriam said:<br>
> ><br>
> >> I believe that Dennis Preston has done substantial work on 'folk<br>
> >> linguistics.'<br>
> ><br>
> > He has indeed, but as far as I'm aware all his work under that<br>
> rubric<br>
> > has been on American dialectology: eg the words that people use to<br>
><br>
> > describe others' dialects ('nasal', 'Southern twang', etc), and the<br>
> fact<br>
> > that listeners are able to place American accents on a North-South<br>
><br>
> > continuum with a remarkable degree of precision (when played<br>
> sentences<br>
> > spoken by ten speakers, given a map with a North-South line of ten<br>
><br>
> > places on it, and asked to match speaker with place). I'm not aware<br>
> of<br>
> > any work Dennis has done on folk perceptions of foreign languages,<br>
><br>
> > though that, of course, doesn't mean to say that he hasn't done any!<br>
> ><br>
> > Nevertheless, the question sounds like one that people in<br>
> educational<br>
> > linguistics might well have some tips on. There's a list you cuold<br>
> ask,<br>
> > accessible here:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/edling.html" target="_blank">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/edling.html</a><br>
> ><br>
> > All the best<br>
> ><br>
> > Damien<br>
> ><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
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