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 started as a class project for three St. Catherine University students 
led to St. Paul police changing its policy on how St. Paul police 
officers are to communicate with people who are deaf.</p>
<p>The students, who just completed their second year in the St. Paul 
university’s American Sign Language/interpreting program, raised their 
concerns in a letter to the police chief at the end of December.</p>
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<p>“Interactions with the police can be stressful and difficult, and 
clear communication is important,” wrote students Catherine Fensom, Liza
 Leja and Pat Schmatz. “The potential for misunderstanding is high when 
the interpreter has limited language skills.”</p>
<p>Deputy Police Chief Paul Iovino said they immediately got to work 
after hearing from the students. They met with an official from the 
Minnesota Department of Human Services’ Deaf and Hard of Hearing 
Services, along with representatives from six associations who work with
 deaf people, to discuss policy suggestions. They implemented many of 
them this month in a <a href="https://www.stpaul.gov/books/40901-persons-disabled-communication" target="_blank" rel="noopener">revised policy</a>, Iovino said.</p>
<p>The previous policy said an officer must make a “qualified” 
interpreter available before taking a statement from a deaf person who 
is under arrest, but the revised policy specifies the interpreter must 
be nationally certified. Officers were previously required to provide 
victims or witnesses with a pen and paper or other way to communicate. 
The new policy says they may provide them an interpreter.</p>
<p>Iovino applauded the St. Kate’s students for taking their classroom 
learning and applying it to the community to bring about change.</p>
<p>“It’s not always flattering to read that we have an outdated policy 
that deserves and needs immediate attention, but we immediately wanted 
to be very good stewards with the policy,” he said. “… “We do want to 
make sure we’re providing trusted service with respect to all 
communities and this gets us closer to continuing to do that.”</p>
<p>One of the groups involved in providing feedback to police, Helping 
Educate to Advance the Rights of the Deaf (HEARD), said in a statement 
Tuesday they “have a number of concerns with the policy and are working 
with our communities to develop a public response.”</p>
<h4 class="gmail-">PREVIOUS LAWSUIT</h4>
<p>The <a href="https://www.twincities.com/2013/05/08/deaf-motorist-who-got-93k-from-st-paul-hopes-police-learn-from-arrest-incident/">police department agreed to change its policy in 2013</a> as part of a $93,450 settlement in a federal lawsuit filed by <a href="https://www.twincities.com/2014/01/23/doug-bahl-63-remembered-as-strong-advocate-for-minnesota-deaf-community/">Doug Bahl, who was deaf</a>.</p><div id="gmail-div-gpt-ad-Cube_Article" class="gmail-dfp-ad gmail-dfp-Cube_Article">
                                        
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<p>In 2006, a St. Paul police officer pulled Bahl over for a traffic 
violation and Bahl requested to communicate with him in writing. Bahl 
said in his lawsuit that the officer sprayed him with a chemical 
irritant, dragged him out of his car and beat him.</p>
<p>Bahl’s attorney, Rick Macpherson, said Tuesday he noticed the newest 
policy change emphasizes using certified interpreters. That issue is at 
the center of a federal lawsuit Macpherson filed on behalf of Catrina 
Hooper, who is deaf, against the St. Paul police department last summer.</p>
<p>Hooper asked for a qualified American Sign Language interpreter when 
she attempted to file domestic assault charges and was provided with an 
officer who is not certified in ASL, her lawsuit says.</p>
<p>Requiring that police use a certified interpreter is “a good step 
forward” in the policy, Macpherson said, but he said that was supposed 
to happen after the Bahl settlement agreement.</p>
<p>“Perhaps if they had adopted this policy after the Bahl agreement … 
Ms. Hooper might not have had the problem she experienced,” said 
Macpherson, who is with the Minnesota Disability Law Center.</p>
<p>Hooper’s lawsuit with St. Paul is ongoing. The city denies that the 
officer who was provided to Hooper was not qualified as an interpreter, 
according to a filing in the case.</p>
<p>Hooper also filed suit against Ramsey County and the sheriff’s 
office, saying she was not provided an ASL interpreter in the jail when 
she requested one, and they reached a $40,000 settlement last year. She 
had been arrested on a misdemeanor warrant, according to the city’s 
legal response to the suit.</p>
<p>Iovino said the policy change wasn’t related to the Hooper case, though “the timing was certainly appropriate.”</p>
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<p>For a project for their deaf culture class, Fensom said she and her 
classmates decided, “with the climate in today’s society regarding 
police officers, we thought it would be interesting to look at relations
 between police and the deaf community.”</p>
<figure id="gmail-attachment_3066983" class="gmail-wp-caption gmail-alignright gmail-size-article_inline_third"><img class="gmail-lazyautosizes gmail-lazyloaded" src="https://i2.wp.com/www.twincities.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/image1.jpg?w=620&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1" alt="Undated courtesy photo, circa May 2018, of Liza Leja, one of three students in the American Sign Language/Interpreting program at St. Catherine University who wrote to the St. Paul police chief about their concerns about the department's policy for communicating with people who are deaf. The police department met with community members and recently changed their policy, as a result of the letter from the students. (Courtesy of Liza Leja)" width="1620"><figcaption class="gmail-wp-caption-text">St. Kate’s student Liza Leja</figcaption></figure>
<p>To begin with, Fensom, Leja and Schmatz told the police department in
 their letter that the name of the policy — “Persons Handicapped in 
Communication” — was “startling” and “(m)any people who are deaf and 
hard-of-hearing do not consider themselves handicapped.”</p>
<p>Iovino said they didn’t realize the wording was outdated. The new 
policy is called “Effective Communication with Persons Who are Deaf, 
Hard of Hearing, Deaf/Blind, Have Hearing Loss and/or for Whom English 
is a Second Language.”</p>
<p>People from the deaf community weren’t involved in the policy change 
last time, according to the police department. The students wrote they 
had “learned about the long history of hearing people making decisions 
for and about deaf people” and they urged the police department to seek 
the community’s input.</p>
<p>Marie Koehler, Minnesota Department of Human Services’ Deaf and Hard 
of Hearing Services regional manager, said her agency helped connect the
 police department with people in the community and co-hosted a meeting.</p>
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make our communities safer by improving understanding between police and
 people who are deaf, deafblind and hard of hearing,” Koehler said.<p></p>
<p>The group HEARD met with St. Paul police in mid-March and provided 
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HEARD’s statement, but they were surprised on May 15 to see an email 
from St. Paul police with the final policy.</p>
<p>“The version as it stands has a number of deeply concerning issues 
that will lead to miscommunication and rights violations,” HEARD said in
 a statement on Tuesday.</p>
<p>Iovino said last week that the document is “fluid” and “if things evolve … we’re going to change it again.”</p>
<p>The police department has distributed information department-wide about their revised policy.</p>
<p>Fensom said she and her classmates weren’t expecting anything to come from their letter.</p>
<p>“All change starts small,” said Fensom, who is from Moorhead, Minn. 
“It’s really exciting that the police department took our suggestions 
and implemented them, and hopefully this will be the start of more 
connections between them and the deaf community.”</p>
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