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 French teachers from Belgium want to "modernise" the French language by
 getting rid of one of its most complicated conjugation rules.</p></div><div class="gmail-c-article-content gmail-js-article-content gmail-article__content"><p><strong>Here's what's complicated:</strong></p><p>The verb <em>to have</em>
 (avoir) in French is essential for mastering French conjugation because
 it’s used as an auxiliary verb with the past participle to make 
compound tenses and it can also be used as an adjective. This only 
affects, however, direct objects that are either singular feminine or 
plural. </p><div class="gmail-teads-inread" style="margin:0px auto 22.4px;height:362px;max-width:556px"><div style=""><div class="gmail-teads-ui-components-label" style="display:block">ADVERTISING</div><div class="gmail-teads-ui-components-credits" style="display:block"><a href="http://inread-experience.teads.tv" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span class="gmail-teads-ui-components-credits-colored">inRead</span> invented by Teads</a></div></div></div><p>Sound like a mouthful? Here's an example to show how it works:</p><p>The sentence: <em>J'ai mangé des pommes</em>
 (I ate apples) is one way of writing that you ate some apples. This is 
how most people would say the act during a conversation in French. </p><p>In this sentence: <em>Les pommes que j'ai mangées</em> (The apples I ate), teachers pushing for the reform would say the conjugation of <em>manger</em>
 in this case is antiquated, and not what French speakers would think 
when talking. So advocates for changing the principle are arguing that 
the rule should be uniform so that it becomes correct to say: <em>Les pommes que j'ai mangé.</em></p><h2>The two Belgian teachers who find the rule 'antiquated'</h2><p>Arnaud Hoedt and Jérôme Piron find the current conjugation rule way too complicated. In an <a href="http://www.liberation.fr/debats/2018/09/02/les-crepes-que-j-ai-mange-un-nouvel-accord-pour-le-participe-passe_1676135" target="_blank">opinion piece</a>
 published on Monday, they wrote: “Children ask themselves why the past 
participle is conjugated differently depending on the placement of the 
direct object."</p><p>To them, the rules detailing “how past participles are conjugated with auxiliary verbs are completely obsolete and complicated”.</p><p>The
 French teachers say it takes them "80 hours on average" to teach these 
rules to students only for them to "complain about the complexity of the
 language."</p><p>To them, time "would be better spent 
developing (the French) vocabulary, learning syntax, developing a taste 
for literature, understanding morphology or exploring etymology."</p><div class="gmail-teads-inread" style="margin:0px auto 22.4px;height:362px;max-width:556px"><div style=""><div class="gmail-teads-ui-components-label" style="display:block">ADVERTISING</div><div class="gmail-teads-ui-components-credits" style="display:block"><a href="http://inread-experience.teads.tv" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span class="gmail-teads-ui-components-credits-colored">inRead</span> invented by Teads</a></div></div></div><p>"It
 would be more valuable to teach kids how to master the language rather 
than make them remember the most arbitrary parts of the language,” the 
teachers said.</p><h2>So what’s their proposal?</h2><p>The teachers 
believe they can simplify these rules to everyone's advantage by 
introducing the “uniformity of past participles with the auxiliary <em>to have</em>”.</p><p>“It’s
 not about destabilising the system or getting rid of what makes our 
spelling, but to maintain a unique rule that makes sense,” wrote Hoedt 
and Piron.</p><p>"What we want is to decriminalise how past principles 
are conjugated with the auxiliary verb to have ... children should not 
be sanctioned for reasoning another way that is grammatically correct," 
Hoedt told Euronews, adding that ultimately what they sought was the 
"improvement" of French orthography.</p><p>The teachers came up with the
 proposal after talking with linguists who explained the changes would 
not affect the grammatical "correctness" of the conjugation.</p><h2>But can their proposal become official?</h2><p>Technically
 not. Hoedt explained that unlike the Spanish language, the French 
language doesn't have an international body that dictates grammar and 
orthography rules.</p><p>"There is no institution that can legally impose orthography to people," said Hoedt.</p><p>L'academie
 francaise de la langue — a renowned language institution in France — 
"is a false reference since its work is only symbolic," according to 
Hoedt.</p><p>Euronews has reached out to the academy for comment.</p><p>However,
 the teachers presented their proposal to the French Language Policy 
Council of the Wallonia-Brussels Federation and the International 
Council of the French Language (CILF) who issues proposals on advisable 
spellings. In 2015, CILF advised the Belgian government to take up the 
reforms in 2015 to no avail.</p><p>In an email to Euronews, Nathalie 
Marchal, director of the French language department of the 
Wallonia-Brussels Federation, said that her department found the 
teachers' proposal "very interesting" since "it offered a real 
rationalisation of French spelling."</p><p>But Marchal highlighted that 
the final decision on whether this proposal would be suggested to 
schools would ultimately fall on the Belgian ministry of education.</p><p>According
 to Hoedt, schools and teachers can put in place new orthography rules 
if they want to but they cannot be forced to do so.</p><p>Euronews has reached out to the International Council of the French Language for comment.</p></div></div>

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