query about dialect marker

[Steve Bialostok]

When I get to language variation/dialect in my Introduction to Language course, I'll be showing American Tongues. It's only dated in a couple of places. 
But even better, and more current, I plan to show part of the first episode from the CBS's The New Normal. Without detailing the episode, Shania, the little girl (about 11), feels that no one in school really gets her. So she adopts a flawless Little Edie dialect (for television, at leas) from Grey Gardens persona.  (she’s basically the third gay man on this show). 
It's fun to watch and, if you're teaching a class, should be to talk about with students.
Steve


--- On Fri, 9/14/12, Harriet Ottenheimer <mahafan at KSU.EDU> wrote:

From: Harriet Ottenheimer <mahafan at KSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: query about dialect marker
To: LINGANTH at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
Date: Friday, September 14, 2012, 11:50 AM

One of my favorite videos. 
If this guy sounded like that it would be easy.
Harriet

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Leila Monaghan <leila.monaghan at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

>To get a comparison, you might want to listen to the two Boston Brahmins in
>American Tongues for what the original version of that accent sounds like.
>
>all best, Leila
>
>On Thursday, September 13, 2012, Woolard, Kathryn wrote:
>
>> You may be able to add Yale undergrads to that category; suggested on
>> basis of one speaker raised in L.A. who went to Yale and has this feature.
>>
>> Kit Woolard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: galey modan <gmodan at GMAIL.COM <javascript:;>>
>> Reply-To: galey modan <gmodan at GMAIL.COM <javascript:;>>
>> Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:26 PM
>> To: "LINGANTH at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG <javascript:;>"
>> <LINGANTH at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG <javascript:;>>
>> Subject: Re: query about dialect marker
>>
>> >In my experience, this seems to be a feature of the idiolect of certain
>> >people *not* from Massachusetts who went to Harvard as undergrads.
>> >Seriously, I've met a number of people with this background who have no
>> >other eastern Mass features and in fact have features of other dialects
>> >(like, for example, the dialect where they're actually from) but say
>> >rahther and cahn't. All academics, for what it's worth. (It *is* a feature
>> >of older versions of a Boston dialect, perhaps eastern New England in
>> >general, but I'll leave that detail to the dialectologists.)
>> >
>> >Galey Modan
>> >
>> >2012/9/13 Harriet Ottenheimer <mahafan at ksu.edu <javascript:;>>
>> >
>> >> On a different matter, I am trying to pin down the most likely
>> >> geographical provenance of the "rather/rahther" distinction in American
>> >> English (apologies for the "spelling").
>> >>
>> >> Specifically, I am trying to find out where in the U.S. a person might
>> >> hail from if he/she regularly pronounces "rather" the same way most
>> >> Americans pronounce "father" or "bother," with a low central [a] and not
>> >> with a front mid [ae].
>> >>
>> >> Can anyone help? The person in question exhibits no other evidence of
>> >> having any regional accent AT ALL.
>> >>
>> >> Harriet Ottenheimer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9/13/2012 2:01 PM, Leila Monaghan wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> A colleague has an interesting language related project on Kickstarter.
>> >>>   What is the consensus of the list about people mentioning these
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>> >>> something else entirely?
>> >>>
>> >>> all best,
>> >>>
>> >>> Leila
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>
>-- 
>Leila Monaghan, PhD
>Department of Anthropology
>University of Wyoming
>Laramie, Wyoming