[Linganth] First person pronouns

Sat Aug 26 07:27:02 UTC 2017

Hello,

Korean has 저 (*cheo*), a more polite form that sets speakers at a lower
status than their interlocutors as a means of showing humility and
deference, and 나 (*na*), which is used between social equals or with people
at a lower status, like children. The pattern carries over into possessive
pronouns, also: 저의/제 ("my") vs. 나의 ("my").

Cheers,

Stevie

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 PM, Woolard, Kathryn <kwoolard at ucsd.edu>
wrote:

> Has anyone mentioned English “one” and French “on” ?
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> Best,
>
> Kit W.
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> *From: *Linganth <linganth-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf
> of Tatsuma Padoan <tp26 at soas.ac.uk>
> *Date: *Friday, August 25, 2017 at 7:57 PM
> *To: *Liz Coville <ecoville at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"LINGANTH at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG" <linganth at listserv.
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> *Subject: *Re: [Linganth] First person pronouns
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> Hello,
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> Although not an alternative type of singular first person pronoun (only an
> alternative pronominal option for singular users), Benveniste interestingly
> refers to the category of "amplified person" when discussing the use of
> "we" for self-presentation of singular speaking subjects, as in the case of
> pluralis maiestatis, or pluralis modestiae ("pop. Tuscan, 'Noi si canta'",
> Problems in General Linguistics, p. 203).
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> Best,
>
> Tatsuma
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> On 26 August 2017 at 06:16, Liz Coville <ecoville at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Cyndi,
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> To follow up on the Malay example, Pete Becker alluded to Maly first
> person singular pronouns in his short essay "Silence across languages" in *Beyond
> Translation*: *Essays toward a Modern Philology* (1995) (and probably
> elsewhere as well):
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> "When we confront a distant language, we are compelled to give full
> attention to the fact that saying, for instance, "I am" is something we do
> with words in English, for in that distant language there is no *I* like
> our *I*, and no *am* at all.  To put one's speaking self into words in
> Burmese, Javanese or Malay is to make claims of status (high or low) that
> alienate our very selves... (284)."
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> Best,
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> Liz
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> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:35 AM So Miyagawa <runa.uei at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Cyndi,
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>
> Malay has *aku *(informal) and* saya *(formal) as the first-person
> singular pronouns.
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> Reference:
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> Current Trends in Pronoun Usage Among Malay Speakers
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> by Normala Othman
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> http://www.philippines-languages.sil.org/ical/papers/
> othman-Current%20Trends%20in%20Pronoun%20Usage.pdf (see p.5)
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> I'm a native Japanese speaker, so I wanted to tell you Japanese examples,
> but you've already mentioned that.
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> Best wishes,
>
> So
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> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Cynthia Dunn <cyndi.dunn at uni.edu> wrote:
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> Hello all.  I am writing a piece talking about the use of pronouns in
> self-representation and I wanted to ask if people are aware of languages
> besides Japanese which offer speakers a choice of more than one option for
> singular, first-person pronouns (based on things like gender, situational
> formality etc).  If you are, I would appreciate a brief grammatical outline
> of the system and/or direction to an appropriate reference work.  You can
> contact me directly off the list at: Cyndi.Dunn at uni.edu
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