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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:14pt'>This is a good thread. Thank you, Bruce, and all those whom I do not know, for posting. I assume you are the young who will carry on. One linguist, Suzette Haden Elgin, who helped also with reaching out to the public, and who <B>never</B> wrote academes (on purpose), died this last Tuesday (Jan 27). A student of 25 years ago sent me a message regarding this. Yes, in the classroom. I finally decided that, yes, it takes three months to teach what ‘phoneme’ or what ‘sexism/racism’ etc. really mean. For someone who has never heard such radical things a clear definition or explanation does not do it. And it requires a will to learn. Thank you all for the work you are doing.<BR>
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On 1/30/15, 12:58 PM, "Miller, Laura" <<a href="millerlau@umsl.edu">millerlau@umsl.edu</a>> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12pt'>Other than doing our best in our classrooms, and writing our own blogs, news articles, and editorials, I don't think that "reaching out" to talk to journalists is normally very effective. Actually, I get irritated when people insist that the problem is that we use academic jargon and that's why non-academics aren't understanding our important viewpoints. I've spent decades trying to respond to news people in a sane manner when they ask about Asian eyelid surgery, geisha, and oversexed/undersexed Japanese. It often doesn't matter what you say or how you say it, the journalist already holds a firm viewpoint. I wrote about this in a Savage Minds post, and I got a lot of heat for it. I also ranted about it in a recent journal issue I edited on Asia knowledge production. Young people read good blogs as much as news, so more academics doing blogs may be a good strategy. <BR>
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<B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 30, 2015 10:52 AM<BR>
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<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Linganth] It turns out that Jane Hill is white(!)<BR>
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</FONT></SPAN><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>Another tricky bit is that the use of hyperbole to draw sharp political lines is not restricted to one ideological stance. I find myself increasingly annoyed by headlines purporting to show me some public figure thoroughly beaten in discussion in a public forum, often with a video which only could be interpreted that way from a particular stance. I am not sure how, or even if, we can build a political discourse that relies in reason rather than “gotcha!” tactics, but it does feel as if this is something we, as linguistic anthropologists, ought to be thinking about.<BR>
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Meantime off I go to teach my students that, from a North Korean perspective, the US looks bat shit crazy and dangerously unpredictable. (the other half of my job title is Asian ethnographer…) Maybe, hopefully, we are making a difference in our classrooms?<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><FONT SIZE="1"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'><B>From:</B> Linganth [<a href="mailto:linganth-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org">mailto:linganth-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org</a>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bruce Mannheim<BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 30, 2015 8:30 AM<BR>
<B>To:</B> Bonnie Urciuoli<BR>
<B>Cc:</B> Marcia Farr; <a href="linganth@listserv.linguistlist.org">linganth@listserv.linguistlist.org</a><BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Linganth] It turns out that Jane Hill is white(!)<BR>
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Bonnie is absolutely correct here. I sent the link around to colleagues here who teach Jane's book and articles to use in classes. The change of prepositions from the book title to what is described in the clip is not a matter of sloppiness, but is what Bonnie says that it is: "deployed entirely in service to creating sharp political lines and cementing their demographic." <BR>
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Bonnie Urciuoli <<a href="burciuol@hamilton.edu">burciuol@hamilton.edu</a>> wrote:<BR>
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Well put. It's the same dynamic as what happens every time any politician with an even remotely progressive message tries to explain it to the general public. The problem is, we as academics value accurate explanation. But the likes of Fox or of shall we say certain political operatives are not remotely invested in any notion of accurate explanation -- for them reference is deployed entirely in service to creating sharp political lines and cementing their demographic. I do not know how to fight any of that directly.<BR>
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On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM, galey modan <<a href="gmodan@gmail.com">gmodan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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It's not just a question of reaching out 'beyond the academy', though -- this story was instigated by a college student -- one who didn't think there was anything strange about complaining about book titles of books she hadn't read for a course she didn't take. And there is a larger, more general problem when a major news network thinks it reasonable to cook up a story about book titles in which the actual content of the books is deemed too irrelevant to address. Not sure what it would take to instigate the monumental cultural shift in attitudes towards the academy that would be needed for such stories to be universally deemed ridiculous.<BR>
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2015-01-28 12:55 GMT-05:00 Marcia Farr <<a href="farrmarcia@gmail.com">farrmarcia@gmail.com</a>>:<BR>
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What this also shows, unfortunately, is how wide the gap is between most "white" people and academics. We have to continue to document and analyze as we do, but we also should be working on explaining our work to reach these people, or things will never change. <BR>
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bonnie Urciuoli <<a href="burciuol@hamilton.edu">burciuol@hamilton.edu</a>> wrote:<BR>
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Racism can be problematic for everyone -- who knew?<BR>
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:17 AM, PAUL B Garrett <<a href="pgarrett@temple.edu">pgarrett@temple.edu</a>> wrote:<BR>
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