<div dir="ltr">Koenraad Kuiper has a piece on “Sporting Formulae in New Zealand English: Two Models of Male Solidarity” comparing a relatively polite volleyball game with the abuse that goes on in a rugby locker room. While he demonstrates clearly that New Zealand men use feminization to insult each other, the players do not boast of sexual aggression, just put each other down in quite graphic ways. I think the terms of abuse are different (Americans are more likely to use what CJ Pascoe calls “fag discourse”) but the effect seems the same.<div><br></div><div>Can be found on p. 315: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Approach-Interpersonal-Communication-Essential/dp/1444335316/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476242960&sr=8-1&keywords=leila+monaghan">https://www.amazon.com/Cultural-Approach-Interpersonal-Communication-Essential/dp/1444335316/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476242960&sr=8-1&keywords=leila+monaghan</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Having said that, one student wrote a paper for me about being ostracized after he insisted on walking a drunk female friend home because the fraternity party she was at seemed to be getting out of hand. He was called a “cockblocker” for it and pushed out of a friend group. The pressures on young men to conform to stereotypical behavior are real.</div><div><br></div><div>all best,</div><div><br></div><div>Leila</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:30 AM, Elizabeth Keating <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Elizabeth.Keating@austin.utexas.edu" target="_blank">Elizabeth.Keating@austin.utexas.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To add to this very interesting discussion:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Benjamin Bailey’s 2016 article “ Street remarks to women in five countries and four languages: Impositions of engagement and intimacy” in Sociolinguistic Studies is an interesting
discussion about a similar case of contested interpretation of demeaning behavior towards women. He describes referential vs. interactional accounts of what the behavior (street talk) means and how people should be accountable for it. Men who engage in street
remarks defend their behavior as benign (e.g. I was just saying ‘hi’ or giving her a compliment), while women interpret the remarks as an imposition of intimacy (i.e. a first pair part greeting or compliment, with interactional preferences for what must come
next, the second pair part, e.g. a greeting or acknowledgement of the compliment). Women regularly ignore the street remarks, and through their lack of response to greetings or compliments, treat them as outside of norms of civil interaction.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Linganth [mailto:<a href="mailto:linganth-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org" target="_blank">linganth-bounces@<wbr>listserv.linguistlist.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah Jones<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Woolard, Kathryn <<a href="mailto:kwoolard@ucsd.edu" target="_blank">kwoolard@ucsd.edu</a>><span class=""><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Linganth] "Locker room talk"?<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Regarding the implications of talk of "locker room talk" for athletes, a couple years ago I taught a linguistic anthropology of "gossip, rumor, and lies" at University of Michigan. Among my students were four
members of college football team, one of whom made a short presentation on "the locker room." His argument was that the locker room was a work space not entirely dissimilar to an office of cubicles: there were some corners in which you *could* have a more
personal conversation, but you were still at work. According to my student, locker room talk was actually more likely to be about homework than about women. The real gossip, he claimed, came after practice, on the walk home. His teammates nodded emphatically
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I don't think the student was at all suggesting that the kind of talk often associated with locker rooms does not in fact take place among football players. However, I found it intriguing that this football
player, unprompted, chose to emphasize -- for the entire class -- that the locker room was a place for 'work' rather than 'gossip.'
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Woolard, Kathryn <<a href="mailto:kwoolard@ucsd.edu" target="_blank">kwoolard@ucsd.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">There’s a lot of expertise on gender and discourse on this listserv. Is anyone poised/ working on an op-ed piece and/or well-placed blogpost taking
apart , for a general audience, the repeated invocation of “locker room talk” as a defense of bragging about sexual assault? </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">E.g., what/where is this canonical “locker room” that excuses bragging about criminal sexual harassment, in the long-established age of Title IX?
And, what are the implications of this genre defense for athletes in high schools and colleges, in addition to professional teams, in a time of such public concern about sexual assault on campuses and highly publicized incidents so often involving athletes?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I can’t write it, though I wish it could; I hope some of my talented, knowledgeable colleagues who can write for a broad public are working on it!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks –</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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